Every time I see the condition "never", I always think to myself that it looks really useful, but I'm yet to ever use it (I guess my motto is 'never say never', har har har). Do you guys use it, and if so, how?
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Do you use "never"?
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I mainly use it to temporarily deactivate an Event when i test my Application.
Im unsure if the Never condition can actually prevent Actions from triggering, but would be fun to check if this is possible -
Nope i NEVER use it ;-D but to be serious... I don't think i've ever used it. 1-2 times maybe maximum but i can't remember why haha
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Never ever I used never, I didn't pull this useless lever. XD
No - I mean, you have the convenient possibility to toggle events on and off with groups, which makes this condition primarily a good supplement. -
Im unsure if the Never condition can actually prevent Actions from triggering, but would be fun to check if this is possibleI just assumed it did. But actually, I just tried this, and it didn't work as I expected:
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I expected that event #3 would prevent the application from closing in #4, but no, it still closes. So what does never actually do?
EDIT: according to the help file:
QuoteNever inserts a blank event line in the Event editor of your application. All of the actions inserted on this line will never happen during application runtime.
I think a reasonable understanding of that second sentence would expect that event #4 above wouldn't trigger. But it seems like never merely nullifies that particular event. If so, that's a misleading name IMO. It really should be called something like don't, null, or maybe later
Oh well, I guess it's back to never saying never...
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It was useful before Activate/Deactivate a line was added. But those commands essentially make Never redundant.
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Yes, 'Never' was simply a method to deactivate an event. Nothing more about it
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Glad you asked, I always wondered about this too! Interesting stuff!
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Everyone saying it's meant to be used only to temporarily disable event lines is absolutely correct. This was NEVER meant for making logical code, ONLY to disable a line for the sake of debugging etc. Now that you can actually disable and enable lines its completely redundant.
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I use Never for debugging stuff.
Step 1: Create an event to test out a feature
Step 2: When you no longer need that event, I put in the Never
Step 3: Leave that there in case I ever need to test that out again, remove the never status when I do.SUPER helpful.
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I think it is useful to hold templates of event blocks that you do not want to delete. But dont want to execute. Another alternative to disabled groups.
I would rather keep it than remove it. I find myself using it more than deactivate because it is fast and I can keep easily see what should never run.
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its 100% redundant. you can now deactivate single lines, not only groups. so the theory of seeing events you dont want to delete is shot to pieces. you can do that without using NEVER.
having said that - its not harming anyone being there. -
its 100% redundant. you can now deactivate single lines, not only groups. so the theory of seeing events you dont want to delete is shot to pieces. you can do that without using NEVER.
having said that - its not harming anyone being there.True.
BUT, Unlike simply activating/deactivating lines, you can search for events using the "never" condition. So thats ONE advantage
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You can change the Fusion skin to make it easier to find your de-activated lines. Mine show up with a red tint so I never miss them whenever I scroll my list.
Please login to see this picture.To change this simply open and edit the info.ini within the "Clickteam Fusion\Skins\NameOfSkinHere\" folder. It's filled with all kinds of stuff you can mess with.
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Did not know this!
Though I still think the search option would be better for bigger, even massive projects. I often have groups within groups within groups within groups within groups within...
I get lost in my own code sometimes.
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Also, search won't find things in collapsed groups within groups. To make things worse, there is a bug in the ELE where the Open All Groups command doesn't open all nested groups. So doing a search on a big project becomes even less reliable.
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Do I smell a bug box feedback request for filtering De-activated Lines?
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Also, search won't find things in collapsed groups within groups. To make things worse, there is a bug in the ELE where the Open All Groups command doesn't open all nested groups. So doing a search on a big project becomes even less reliable.
Yeah, for both those reasons, using a hotkey for Open All Groups is a must. I'm in the habit now of hitting it several times in quick succession to actually open all groups (because it eventually opens all groups when you do that)....and also doing that before every search. Both are annoyances, to be sure, but it just becomes muscle memory after a while. But if you couldn't use hotkeys (which IIRC you couldn't until about a year ago), it would be murder.
Though if I remember correctly, you use a keyboard-less wacom setup, so I guess hotkeys wouldn't apply in that case
They really should fix the open all groups bug. The weird thing is that Photoshop has had basically the same bug for years. -
Can you negate Never and use it as Always? 😂
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