Can't hide navigation bar on cell phone

[MENTION=19022]Janette5[/MENTION] [MENTION=16229]alperoz49[/MENTION] any update on this issue? Is this OK now with the changes Fernando suggested that you do in your apps? (= without heading and status bar you should get the immersive full-screen mode)

So if I read you correctly the changes made by Fernando create a problem that can't be solved either by other settings or actions in your application, correct?

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[MENTION=19022]Janette5[/MENTION] [MENTION=16229]alperoz49[/MENTION] any update on this issue? Is this OK now with the changes Fernando suggested that you do in your apps? (= without heading and status bar you should get the immersive full-screen mode)

Hi Yves,

1-) Navigation bar still cannot be always hidden. I observed more it acts this way :

if I set an action to hide the navigation bar within the event editor (always -> hide navigation bar) the frame starts with no visible navigation bar.
Whenever I click on an object or section on the screen, actually I am not clicking on the object or the section but on the frame itself and this forces navigation bar to react my tap. The first tap always forces the navigation bar to pop up.
Then the navigation bar wants to hide because of the event I set and I have only a few seconds to tap on object/section before the navigation bar goes down again. if it goes down (it does in few seconds) then my first tap again forces navigation bar to pop up again.

Before the update, it never showed but when I set always-> hide navigation bar so my tap is not recognized to control navigation bar. Now cannot be hidden forever.

I don't know what causes this because my settings are exactly the same. I tried Fernando's suggestions but no good.

2-) I also mentioned that Admob was not showing correctly after update. I resolved that :

before the update, I was showing the Admob object in a second layer. (in the past it was not showing when I put it in the same layer) Now I once again show it in the same layer with the interface and there are no issues.

As a workaround, I don't hide the navigation bar but instead, I always show it. It makes more sense for my apps but could be a huge problem on games that require the whole screen and lots of tapping.

A game should use fullscreen theme from beginning which is done setting heading OFF and Display Status bar OFF, starting this way will use the fullscreen theme + entering in immersive mode, this was recoded entirely to make 100% usable by user, if user start from heading ON and Display Status bar ON (this will use a device action bar theme) but can entered in immersive mode as per commands

[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif]* Start of Frame
Android object : Hide action/title bar
Android object : Hide Navigation bar
AndroidPlus : Set Inmersive mode to 1[/FONT]
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This will make sense and comply with the google rule

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in a bit I will publish the new approach for handling this which merely require to add a new action, this change is done since you should not entered in immersive and fullscreen mode simply by hiding the nav bar, other user will not have the feature of hide and show bar as intended for regular application and was not guarantee to work in all cases, that why the need to be recode as intended, remember the runtime is leaving behind device under 14 which at that time handling the fullscreen and nav bar in a totally different way.

About some users mention that when showing AdMob; interstitial, reward video , GPG objects, dialog have the navigation bar showed this is totally correct since the OS understand that user may cancel theses operation and it shows the nav bar to allow user to do that using back button. This does not happen in chartboost since they keep it full control and you can only cancel pressing the X.

Please let me now if you want to participate in the beta of this new mode.

I'm also having trouble with this: the navigation bar pops up to stay, even though I tell it to hide. I have tried to tell it to hide in many different ways too, by "Always", and by any touch... Can't remember all of the ways I've tried atm, but have been tinkering around with this a few days now - testing to "dim navigation bar" instead, testing to combine "dim.." and "hide.." but instead the navigation bar either covers the bottom of my game(game-breaker in my case), or squeezes (resizes) the screen from bottom up for the space of the navigation bar(done with using only "dim..", which is the best solution for now, but it is a bit annoying for my game-play to have those buttons available during the play).

What I have noticed while testing is that the navigation bar does hide, but as soon as I touch anywhere on the screen it shows up again. It is as if the first touch after that the navigation bar has hidden, is telling it to show itself again..

When testing, I'm exporting the game as an Android version 7.1 APK with API 25, running the game on a Sony Xperia XZ Premium in Android v. 9.

PS: Noticed that sometimes I can work my way around the issue in-game, by having the "Resume" button of my pause screen attempting to "hide the navigation bar", which will only work until next touch. However, sometimes when I tab out of the window - leave the app in the background and return to it, this can remove the navigation bar.

standard version you need to start from fullscreen or regular theme

you have not immersive mode in standard version

Also, make sure you use the build 292.11, available as beta for 1 day. It fixes an issue.

Thank you for your tests.

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I don't know how people without the developer version would be able to use the Android module without this feature and it doesn't seem fair to me to take something away from everyone and only give it back to a select few.

I agree, I allowed it only because it was supposed to be not mandatory. This will be fixed.

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Ticking the box -

maximized on boot up and not having any other setting resulted in the game opening with navigation bar and title bar showing.

Unable to hide them - any attempt to hide them resulted in the navigation bar popping up like before. However, I could play the games minimized without interference and the game displayed correctly although with the navigation bar and title bar showing. I only tested this on my phone, not on my tablets.

can you explain this more, what is this box value you are referring? are you sure fullscreen mode is set correctly?

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You no longer have the feature in Fusion to switch between full screen and window mode at all. This was completely removed by these changes
Hide / Show Navigation bar does not work correctly.
Hide / Show Title / Action bar does not work correctly. (In immersive mode it will show it briefly - so I guess that would be deemed to work correctly - it's just not permanent like it was before.)

this never existed during runtime, can you explain this more.

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Hide / Show Navigation bar does not work correctly.

how are you using this, and what you expect? it show and hide here normally, now if you want this to be immersive you need to set immersive.

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I don't know how people without the developer version would be able to use the Android module without this feature and it doesn't seem fair to me to take something away from everyone and only give it back to a select few.

Basically there are two type of layout to use
Game fullscreen
Application regular theme (you can not show action bar with display status bar hide)

I did not take anything away the only correction I did was that I don't show action bar when display status bar is hidden as REQUEST of Google as mentioned in above post. even though I let this to be done manually for developer version.

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I don't know if full screen is set correctly - I've never used it before. The only button I could find was under Game Properties / Window: Maximized at boot up - that is the button I ticked.

Oh Sorry now I understand this does not work in mobile, in android you have to handle only these two features to obtain fullscreen.

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I've always had my Android games do the following: They open in window mode* - and then there's a button you can click - which was linked to the hide navigation bar button - and if you clicked that - then the navigation bar and title bar would disappear and the game would go full screen and remain that way - it sometimes messed up if returning from pause and I used the Android + object to set that back i.e. game returning from pause + global value set - hide the navigation bar. I never used the hide title bar button - as hiding the navigation bar also hid that - on my devices. This feature up to 292.7 worked great - I used it myself to switch between full screen and window mode constantly when I was testing or playing my games. I've never had a complaint or comment about this from anybody playing or testing my games either.

Is not the correct setting that why you were getting this behavior, indeed you are mention here the cause I did recode this.

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If I put in the command "immersive mode" then I can go full screen - everything works correctly, but the game has to stay in full screen immersive mode.

this is the mode android came up to solve the nav bar behavior in order to keep fullscreen layout (available from api 19) and not to show the bar unless user need it in case of an user operation; filling a control, with keyboard show and have control on it and hide keyboard manually, or anything that expected to be cancelled like, a purchase, dialog, admob inters/video, there is not other way and it is not correct being switching mode, that cause a performance issue since you are making the OS observe this, you may notice the FPS changes when the nav bar is showing this speed change is because OS(NOT Runtime) is checking for the nav bar status, imagine making a scroll game using this concept will be very bad.

Something that you can be sure, and now you can test, when you are coming from pause, other dialog, you always have the correct nav behavior.

As mentioned by Yves, in previous post, the immersive mode command will be added in Android Object too for standard fusion users.

I will review google documentation to see if this is possible without bring any issue back.

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I did some changes and I test here from 4.4.3 to 9.0, I think this was also one of the problem in the past, if user understand that setting immersive mode and show display status bar. the bar will be overlapping partially the top of the frame and they are Ok with that I can post this changes (this can not be change, this is something from OS)

Display Status Bar ON and Immersive Mode OFF

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Regular Theme Layout is set normally and not covered by status bar.

Display Status Bar ON and Immersive Mode ON

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note status bar overlap the top of the frame

Status Bar OFF and Immersive ON

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interesting in test for android device 4.2, let me know to send a PM with the new runtime

Hey all,

with 292.14 everything works smoothly !!! I can manage to hide the navigation bar all the time. Thanks.