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1. I don't understand what the difference is so I can't answer this.
3. I suspect the answer is "more than you need". It's easy enough to find out yourself. Just go into the graphics editor and keep doing select-all/copy/paste until you hit a limit. I gave up after about 12800 frames. It seemed to work fine with 12800 frames, but it does slow down the graphics editor terribly
2. Same as for #3: it's probably easy enough to find out for yourself. Though since you can only create one new animation at a time, you might give up from boredom before you find the answer (but in that case, I guess the answer also would translate to: "more than you need")
In probably all of the above, my guess is that the content rather than the quantity is likely to create the real limit. As in: unless your animation frames all consist of 2x2px squares, your MFA will likely hit the RAM ceiling long before you get to any actual hard limits. Fusion 2.5+ is still 32-bit, so Fusion apps can only use a certain amount of RAM before they glitch out (from what I've seen with 2.5, the real-world limit seems to fall around ~1.2GB, though perhaps this has improved slightly with 2.5+ which seems to be much more RAM efficient)
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(30000 objects per frame for 2.5+)
Do your questions come from a place of academic curiosity, or practical need? If it's the former and you're just asking because you're curious, then go ahead and ask away. But if it's the latter, and you actually feel you need actives with 1000+ frames in them to complete your project, then you're probably not planning your project efficiently enough.
This is just my opinion of course, but it's probably worth pointing out that I'm no stranger myself to pushing Fusion to its limits. If there was a prize for 'most graphically intensive Fusion game', the game I'm currently working on (Spryke) would probably be a front-runner to win. So if I think you might be going overboard in your performance expectations of Fusion, you might have a problem. 
Can you break up your level loader object into several objects? Can you load some of the graphics dynamically from actual .png files (I've found this to be a huge productivity boon myself) rather than from within Active Objects?
I made an active object, pasted 50 frames per direction. When I press a button, a animation at the bottom of the list should show an image. It fails to display after the limit is 14,854 frames is reached. I have an active object in my game that pastes level objects, and it fails to display after a much lower number, therefore it must mean that because some of the images are larger this must be taken into account and maybe has something to do with the memory that causes active objects to fail to display frames at the lower end of the list. Is there a way I can tell if my active object is becoming overloaded by viewing the size? mine fail to display new tiles after under 1000 images per active.
There is no fixed maximum number of images and animations per object, there is a maximum size for the object data at runtime. More exactly there is a maximum value for some addresses in the object data... making this difficult to evaluate. Removing this address limit is possible but complicated as there are a number of locations to modify in the source code, and very few applications need it, that's why I guess it was never done. I'll check to see what can be done.
I took a look a bit better. Actually the maximum number of frames in an active objects is given by this formula:
(32764 - 66 * number_of_animations - 8 * total_number_of_directions)/2
Basically the maximum number you can get in a single active object is about 16340 if you use a single animation with a single direction. If you have 100 animations and 1 direction per animation, the maximum number of images in this object is (32764 - 6600 - 800)/2 = 12682. If 8 directions are used for each animation, i.e. if your object contains 800 directions, the maximum number of images is (32764 - 6600 - 6400)/2 = 9882. So what is reducing the maximum number of images in the active object is the total number of directions.
We can perhaps change this, at least in the PC version in a first time, this will cause a format change so I need to check what changes are involved, and how to do it without increasing too much the size of the applications.
PS: btw there is a limit of 65500 images for the entire application, this limit is more difficult to change and I'm not sure it will be removed before F3. I saw only one game that reached this limit.
PS: btw there is a limit of 65500 images for the entire application, this limit is more difficult to change and I'm not sure it will be removed before F3. I saw only one game that reached this limit.
I found this bit extra interesting. Is it possible to see an application's current number of images somewhere?
I found this bit extra interesting. Is it possible to see an application's current number of images somewhere?
Hmm, no. I can add it to the Info tab in the properties of the application if you want.
If you own the HTML5 exporter you can build an HTML5 app without the "Generate mosaics" option (to save individual images) and look at the higher file number.
Hmm, no. I can add it to the Info tab in the properties of the application if you want.
If you own the HTML5 exporter you can build an HTML5 app without the "Generate mosaics" option (to save individual images) and look at the higher file number.
Ah, I see! I went and built one just now:
Not even 7 000 yet. Phew. Even with all content yet to be made I don't think I'll be anywhere near the maximum number. That's good to know, thanks!
Sorry to barge in but knowing exactly how many unique images you're currently using would be awesome! I've thought about that a lot
(32764 - 66 * number_of_animations - 8 * total_number_of_directions)/2
Basically the maximum number you can get in a single active object is about 16340 if you use a single animation with a single direction. If you have 100 animations and 1 direction per animation, the maximum number of images in this object is (32764 - 6600 - 800)/2 = 12682. If 8 directions are used for each animation, i.e. if your object contains 800 directions, the maximum number of images is (32764 - 6600 - 6400)/2 = 9882. So what is reducing the maximum number of images in the active object is the total number of directions.
Yves This formula is more confusing than a homeless man under house arrest. 800 directions example?
I've got a user who can't switch animations beyond a certain level - is he hitting the limit? Please login to see this link..
Well, the object in this example as 550 animations, each one with a single direction. The formula I gave above gives (32764 - 66*550 - 8 * 550) / 2 = -7936/2 So yes this MFA is way above the limit.
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