SDL Joystick Object release

PkR · April 16, 2020 at 11:25 AM

After trying to create a Windows application that would work with both XInput and DInput controllers I found out that all gamepad/joystick extensions currently available for Fusion as of 2020 (except the HTML5 one maybe, but I needed a Windows EXE version) have major limitations or serious flaws, some of which are documented here: Please login to see this link.. I also found it ridiculous that people have tried to profit from the situation by selling toolkits that simply work around bugs and attempt to make sense of what these extensions offer to the end user. So I made my own extension that uses the SDL2 library to poll input, and I'm also releasing an open-source version of it for anyone who might want to add new features to it.

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A few notes:
1) SDL Joystick is free and always will be! "SDL Object" by Phi is a different extension, which is paid and closed source.
2) This extension requires SDL2.DLL to be placed in your Fusion main folder and in Data\Runtime\Unicode.
3) This extension is compiled with support for MMF2 (Unicode) but it is only tested on Fusion 2.5.
4) Only the Windows runtime is supported. There are no plans for other runtimes at the moment.
5) Although SDL 3 is now available, the extension is still using SDL 2 at the moment.
6) The extension was made for personal use. I assume no responsibility for usage of this extension in your projects and I am not obliged to provide tech support. Bug reports are welcome. Pull requests are also welcome and will be merged if the changes are compatible with my preferences. Otherwise feel free to make a fork.

Hope you like it!

denisstephane · April 16, 2020 at 2:16 PM

Thank you,very good extension.

SirEatAlot · April 16, 2020 at 5:38 PM

Very cool, will check this out!

CapitaineCaverne · April 18, 2020 at 12:21 PM

Thanks for the update.

Crian · April 21, 2020 at 1:50 PM

Thanks for the update, so the latest version of the z33z's Joypad object should be 1.5, or am I wrong?

PkR · April 21, 2020 at 3:17 PM

I think you might be confusing it with the (slightly newer but also old) Joystick 2 object, which is a different extension.
The updated Joypad object should be version 3.1 in the about dialog, however I don't think it's been updated yet. Since it's not my extension I can't release it on my own, so you'll have to wait until Yves approves the update in Extension Manager.

Crian · April 21, 2020 at 5:12 PM

Quote from PkR

I think you might be confusing it with the (slightly newer but also old) Joystick 2 object, which is a different extension.
The updated Joypad object should be version 3.1 in the about dialog, however I don't think it's been updated yet. Since it's not my extension I can't release it on my own, so you'll have to wait until Yves approves the update in Extension Manager.

Ok, thank you for the clarification!

Jonathan · June 5, 2020 at 7:27 PM

Wow I didn't see that before! That awesome dude!
Does this extension works with almost all the joypads?

danjo · June 7, 2020 at 12:16 AM

very good extension
. thanks

elvisish · June 7, 2020 at 5:55 PM

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people have tried to profit from the situation by selling toolkits that simply work around bugs and attempt to make sense of what these extensions offer to the end user.

I think in the case of VACCiNE, [MENTION=15682]Volnaiskra[/MENTION] spent a considerable amount of time implementing a very complete system that allows for an out-of-the-box working solution to multiple types of controllers, and I think if you asked him, he'd tell you that he hardly profits a great deal from clickstore sales

jasonorme · July 30, 2020 at 12:42 AM

Really impressive and simple.

CuddlyGoose · August 10, 2020 at 5:49 PM

After certain modern PCs failed to even recognize basic joystick connectivity with Fusion (using built-in and/or joystick 2 support), this proved to be a life saver! Was able to get this implemented quickly, and it seems more efficient. Thanks for sharing!

One note: It does not seem to work with sub-applications (at least in the configuration that I had them).

nihilistblues · August 25, 2020 at 11:15 PM

Nice! Is there a chance to have force feedback support in the future releases?

DaveC · October 29, 2020 at 12:48 PM

thanks for this! I think I'll implement this extension into my project - considering this is open source, you don't mind Clikteam expanding on it with features?

Phi · October 30, 2020 at 11:39 PM

Quote from PkR

1) This extension requires SDL2.DLL to be placed into the folder where your EXE or MFA file is - this is by design because I want it to be like that in my projects. It might also require Visual C++ runtimes to be installed, but you can recompile the extension with different code generation settings ("Multi-threaded" instead of "Multi-threaded DLL") to avoid this at the cost of a larger MFX file.

In the latest DarkEdif extension SDK, simply make use of INI setting Please login to see this link. to remove the dependency.

Quote from DaveC

thanks for this! I think I'll implement this extension into my project - considering this is open source, you don't mind Clikteam expanding on it with features?

DaveC Clickteam or anyone is able to, PkR said in original post, forks and pull requests are welcome.
Forks are personal variants of a codebase, and pull requests are requests to copy over the changes from a variant into the original codebase.

PixelABCD · October 31, 2020 at 4:33 PM

I just discovered this, it should be in Extension Manager. Thank your for better gamepad support!

PixelABCD · November 1, 2020 at 5:49 AM

I think sinclair is not coming to forums, so I'll share this instead:

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Sinclairiandnes
Thought I'll report that controller extension is glorious minus one small problem, is that when you transition to a new frame, if you're holding down button/dpad on the controller, it won't register until you release and press again.
Other than that, tested on 4 different controller and zero problems, no lag, no nothing.

chrilley · November 2, 2020 at 2:17 PM

Amazing job [MENTION=5466]PkR[/MENTION]

Also thank you for releasing this for free and open source as well.

Progject · December 4, 2020 at 12:59 PM

Quote from elvisish

I think in the case of VACCiNE, [MENTION=15682]Volnaiskra[/MENTION] spent a considerable amount of time implementing a very complete system that allows for an out-of-the-box working solution to multiple types of controllers, and I think if you asked him, he'd tell you that he hardly profits a great deal from clickstore sales

I was gonna say, this is quite disingenuous, Volnaiskra is doing God's work things like VACCiNE which has enabled me to actually remain developing my project in Fusion.

I'm currently way busy, has anybody tried this? Is it a worthy replacement for the current offerings?

Phi · December 4, 2020 at 8:26 PM

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I was gonna say, this is quite disingenuous, Volnaiskra is doing God's work things like VACCiNE which has enabled me to actually remain developing my project in Fusion.

evlisish wasn't being sarcastic, my guy, he was complimenting Volnaiskra.

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I'm currently way busy, has anybody tried this? Is it a worthy replacement for the current offerings?

Seems like people like it a lot more in the Clickteam Discord.
I also made Please login to see this link. that doesn't require external files, also Please login to see this link..
PkR and me are Please login to see this link. whether to merge them, I'm for it, he's not.

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