Chart Object Beta 8; Ini++ v1.5b RC1

Welcome to our brand new Clickteam Community Hub! We hope you will enjoy using the new features, which we will be further expanding in the coming months.

A few features including Passport are unavailable initially whilst we monitor stability of the new platform, we hope to bring these online very soon. Small issues will crop up following the import from our old system, including some message formatting, translation accuracy and other things.

Thank you for your patience whilst we've worked on this and we look forward to more exciting community developments soon!

Clickteam.
  • I think this is the final version of the Chart Object and also of Ini++

    Please everybody give it a try!

    If anybody comes up with some nice examples that'd be great. Also, I thought it'd be cool having a YouTube video showing its features, but my voice sounds too stupid to do it myself. Anyone game?

  • Hi Jax,

    Below my comments

    IN THE ACTION MENU

    1.- when you open dialog to save appears OPEN

    IN THE PROPERTIES

    General Appereance

    Initial background color is black but appears white in the screen (edittime)
    you notice only when you save the image or clipboard the graph have the background color.

    THING TO ADD

    maybe is a good idea in general appereance to add; left, center, top, bottom right alignment.


    ====================================================

    I WISH

    If i can change the graph type during runtime.

    That i can have several series, not only one.
    EDIT: I found that can be done using INI++ 1.5 (great)

    That i can define the size of the bitmap when i save the graph.


    Comments

    1.- I think it will be easy if you have the edit image button disable unless you choose; bar, thin bar or pictograph, but i will put below "Chart Type". it will be more easy to find (inside general appeareance i did have to read the help twice.)


    EXCELLENT OBJECT!!!, i will keep testing and let you know

    Regards,


    Fernando Vivolo

    ... new things are coming ...

  • Thanks for your feedback very much!

    1. Well spotted. 'Bug' in rSDK, which I've fixed.

    2. The blank/transparent thing is sort of how ChrisB designed this feature. Basically, if 'transparent' in the second tab is selected, then black is transparent. I wasn't quite sure what to do otherwise, hm. Any suggestions on how this can be cleared up then?

    3. Alignment of what, sorry?

    4. Another way of changing the graph type at runtime is going to the 'About' tab and unticking 'Only show relevant actions' (or whatever it says). Then it shows the unsupported actions to change the graph type.

    5. I am afraid that, except for continuous graphs, I cannot support multiple series due to the initial design. Maybe I will rewrite it for MMF3, though! Actually, I'd really like to do that.

    6. I'll look into that soon.

    Comment 1: Yes, I'll look into that too =)

    - Please login to see this link./Please login to see this link.

  • Sorry my bad explanation

    The idea is that sometimes having a graphic in the center is not the best, the idea of bringing the graphic top, left, right and down is that the image obtained has a strip of separation that once inserted into the text helps you maintain the text-image separation (in the case you want to make a web page for example).

    How to do it, using your commands margins, when pressing on top, (making a margin call as a template) could set the top margin to zero and so on.


    With respect to the background color, you could try setting it equal to FRAME color when the object CHART is inserted for the first time (that seems to works).

    Regards,


    Fernando Vivolo

    ... new things are coming ...

  • Ah, right, yes I see. I'm not sure having the top margin at zero really makes it seem like it is top-aligned though, does it? It sort of just has less padding there instead.

    Yes you are right about the background colour, something needs to be done.

    - Please login to see this link./Please login to see this link.

  • As regards the background colour, it was set this way because that's how you did things in MMF 1.5, without alpha channels.

    The issue of alignment is problematic - you can't draw beyond the bounds of the extension, because you need to draw digits on the axes, and digits protude from the ends. So you can't align the top of the chart area with the top of the entire object.

    5. I would have liked to do this but it wasn't required of me at the time :)


    Some notes:
    "PUT" - that's an interesting message :)
    Cleartype should be disabled for vertical text - use standard anti-aliasing. (Are you drawing the text then rotating it?)
    Pie chart labels in '3d' - if these are displayed in the lower half of the pie chart, perhaps they should be pushed down by the depth of the pie chart, so that they do not overlap it.

    You've done a really good job fixing this up!

    btw from the docs "Note that discrete line graphs do not mathematically make sense!" - no they do not, blame Excel for this one :D

  • Hi ChrisB,

    Regarding the alpha color is correct but is solvated if you make the color match the frame at the beginning.

    The idea is not to increase the size of the boundary, the idea is to move the graph completely, not padding (well padding is compress the bars or concentrated the graph) i believe this is what is done here), but the idea of the margin is to locate the graph a number of pixel that will help to separate text from the graph

    To bring an example, in Web pages when you prepare text and pictures sometime you need to add a blank object(transparent) to keep the separation from the text, this is the general idea.

    at the end this is because the graph will be useful to prepare a report for different applications.

    Regards,

    Regards,


    Fernando Vivolo

    ... new things are coming ...

  • I'm afraid that the alignment thing cannot be done FVivolo, sorry =( I think I've made the situation with the background a lot clearer now by enabling it to be specified in the actions for exporting to file or to the clipboard. I think that is the clearest way to go about it.

    Anti-aliasing things have been fixed too. But your final suggestion I couldn't really do because then it'd look strange if you wanted to have the labels inside the pie-chart (which I think is usually the better thing to do anyway!)

    Maybe it would be better to have a few predefined places the label can go, and even have it work out the best. However I don't really want to delay the release and I really want this out of the door now =)

    - Please login to see this link./Please login to see this link.

  • Oh so the question was, is everybody happy with this? If so I'll make a release candidate and everything will be so much nearer!

    - Please login to see this link./Please login to see this link.

Participate now!

Don’t have an account yet? Register yourself now and be a part of our community!