Closing down ledev.org/villy.net/creativity.sx public pylacewing server

I meant to start work on commercial project including lacewing so having a public server (or help in setting local one) would be much appreciated.

Fanotherpg, +1

I don't really recommend using public servers because to make any quality multiplayer game you have to make a custom server anyway.

Well, some of us don't know how to make a custom server. If it involves programming using C++ or some other programming language like that, some of us will not want to make a custom server, since it ruins the point of using MMF2. Also, I've been using ledev.org for testing one of my games that I do plan on releasing soon (Galactic Battle). It is really useful for testing games. There is also the fact that some people have a bandwidth limit, or they don't want to/can't make a server using their own computer since it isn't on 24/7, or because they don't want to risk their computer getting hacked into, and they can't necessarily afford to get a new one just for that purpose.

You can make custom servers in MMF2. The point is that unless you use a custom server, you cannot prevent cheating.

I'm well aware of that. I really don't care about that, as it will have a single-player mode anyway, where people will be able to cheat no matter what I do. If people want to cheat and I do add code to prevent cheating in the multi-player mode, then it won't fully stop cheating, since they will still be able to play the game in the single-player mode and cheat there. There is also the fact that, if they are cheating, they could just modify the save file to have the most powerful weapon in the game, or they could edit the RAM to have the most powerful weapon in the game, and then go to the multi-player mode and use the most powerful weapon in the game on level 1. You're allowed to do that normally, but you will usually have to get pretty far in-game to do that. As a result, cheating isn't really that much of a concern to me. If you can point out some good reasons I should be concerned about it even with the issues I've pointed out, then I will consider it, but, until then, I think the system I currently have in place is good enough.

You should always let people cheat in singleplayer. You should never let people cheat in Multiplayer - it ruins the fun for legitimate players. Many good games have died because of online cheating - online play is often the only replay value some games have.

But I'm not trying to argue here, just explaining my stance.

The only reason I really use a public server is if I need to test a Lacewing function or idea quickly, without having set up my own server already.

I voted YES. But I haven't actually started using it yet. Only begun using LW today but would really appreciate having the public server to test later.

But I am having problems even connecting to "localhost:1203" (my forwaded port) even though it works with moogame...

That's because they're different protocols Kazuya. It's like trying to order in Saudi Arabia when you only speak English. You can tell there's something there but you won't get much going.

I'm only trying to get a connection at moment. It doesn't accept my IP or "localhost".
If LW uses different protocols then why does the tutorial example by dizzydoo use "localhost" (with an open port after ":") (which apparently works fine for everyone else?)
What other protocol is there to test a local connection??
Unless I've misunderstood what you're saying here.

localhost is the same as 127.0.0.1, which means the server running on your own computer. If you're not running a server on your own computer, it's like talking to an empty room.

I know what localhost means, thank you for the wonderful analogies ...
And I was hosting server but the objects were not installed properly, apparently (when I upgraded from 2.5 it carried objects over from 2) its connecting now.