Is there a maximum game size limit?

MMF2 will start to freak out at around 2gb.

Marv

I have not heard any rumors about 2gb limits in 2.5. There is no limit officially.

Marv

Do you load as much graphics and sound externally as possible?

Fusion mfas are much more compressed. 2Gb would be very very large and unlikely.
You have to upgrade 😆 sorry!

I'd say that Fusion 2.5 is more stable than MMF2, actually. MMF2 had some severe bugs, such as an event limit bug, that would have almost certainly caused issues in any project that could potentially get anywhere near 2GB. Also, I think the 2GB limit bug may have been fixed in CF2.5, though I can't say for sure if it was, and I certainly can't say from experience, though, as Francois mentioned, even if the bug wasn't fixed, at the very least CF2.5 compresses the MFA files to make them take much, much longer to reach said limit. I may be able to show you how to load stuff externally if you want, BTW. It isn't too hard to do when you know how to, though there are some graphics best left internal, since loading animations externally instead of still images (like backgrounds) would be a major pain-in-the-neck, and shorter sounds should probably remain internal as long as you make sure they already are/are converted into OGG files (since OGG files are compressed and very small as a result).

Also, if this is your first attempt at making a game, then I highly recommend against making a huge RPG, since you almost certainly will find yourself at a point where you will give up if you don't already have a lot of experience with MMF2/CF2.5 (though it isn't guaranteed that you will give up, it also isn't unlikely, since it happens quite often from what I've heard). Then again, if you've already got a finished combat system, then you may actually have one of the harder parts of making the game out of the way, so, if you've already gotten that far, then stopping wouldn't necessarily be what you should do. At the same time, though, you could always go back to the project at a later point, when you do finally have enough experience that you feel that you are ready to make it. Word of warning if you choose the route of going back to it later: Make sure to comment your code. It will save you a lot of effort remembering what your code does, trust me. If you don't know how to do it, then I can show you how.

Hehe, well, looking at the picture, it seems you've got everything under control, actually. I myself tend to not be very good at making that sort of thing, even though I've used TGF2/MMF2DEV/CF2.5 DEV for years now, and even though I actually kinda want to make some sort of RPG. On the other hand, you appear to have gotten it all worked out, so I guess it may just not be my thing. I still may want to make an example demonstrating how to make stuff external, but, then again, it may not end up being necessary for you anyway.

I'm in the same boat as the TC, to a degree. As of right now, Hasslevania 2 has an .mfa that's approx. 200MB or so and most of that is from internal sound files (loading them externally isn't an option for this). There is lots of dialogue that is going to be voice "acted" later which will increase the .exe's file size a tremendous amount. Now I don't anticipate this will reach the 2GB size but it's possible it might be toward a Gig when all's said and done, even with the sound files being compressed pretty well into oggs.

I'm cautious about trying to move the project over from MMF2 to 2.5 which is why I haven't done so yet. This is because when I moved it from 1.5 to MMF2 years ago there were many unforseen and unexpected errors and etc that popped up that took a long time to locate and fix. And I don't want to potentially go through all that again.

I do plan on getting 2.5 eventually but you know how it is.

2.5 is different, Del_Duio. For starters, if it does have any show-stopping issues, then it makes a MMF2 backup, so all you have to do is test it to see if it works right. If it does, then you have nothing to worry about. Also, it will almost certainly be very useful for future projects, meaning it won't be a waste in the event you can't use it for Hasslevania 2. So far I have yet to have any show-stopping issues when converting my projects from MMF2 to CF2.5, and I've already done it with several (read: all of them I started in MMF2 that I've worked on at all since getting CF2.5), so I'd say it's unlikely to be an issue unless you are using any extensions that haven't been updated for maybe half a decade, and even a lot of those will work as long as they work with HWA and have no show-stopping issues in Unicode.

External files are great if you dont mind them being accessible by the user. It can potentially save a TON of storage in the mfa.

If you are using the Picture object or an extension similar to that, it should show you the image the same as it would be as a backdrop.
I also recommend building an exe to test and make sure it loads your externals properly. Sometimes folks just choose the object from the Frame Editor without coding it into the Event Editor where to actually look when it is an .exe
AppPath$+"X folder\Backdrops\X.png" works best.

So, just curious, can anyone from Clickteam confirm if the 2gb limit is fixed in 2.5? I am building an incredibly large game using prerendered 3d sprites and need to know.

You should probably store the graphics externally if you're going to be using so many of them. Just sayin'.

I would but in this scenario I dont want people getting ahold of the graphics. Ive stored externally for other games but this one is a bit different.