Kickstarting additional support, upgrades and features for Fusion 2.5

No worries Game_Master. I understand where you are coming from.

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I agree with Koobare and Królik! If you going to make a big commercial game then you will always find some issues related with CF. I belive that CT should try to use their engine to make something big and test CF even more than now.

Yeah, Fusion is great for making small games. If you start building a big game however (something that the majority of people end up doing), you're going to run into issues. Having multiple frames in your game can be a nightmare, as you need to copy and paste all your events and objects, across them all.

If Fusion handled objects and events, the way Construct 2 does, then it'd be so much easier. I have faith that Clickteam will address this issue with Fusion 3, but we're just going to have to live with it whilst we work in MMF2 and Fusion 2.5.

While everything can be improved some of the games here -- Please login to see this link. seem kinda big.
So I would not agree Fusion 2.5 is just for small little games.

While updates for Fusion 2.5 have been slow the last 1/2 of 2016 we are working on a major update to it.

The only real options I think that will work for crowd funding will be -- additional exporter runtimes and extensions.
Once we are done with a little project we are working on now we will do a poll for additional exporter runtimes and if the crowd funding can fund it it will be done next.

It's a bit pain in the ass to copy events and objects over like Enchantainment mentioned, but I don't mind doing so. At least I can keep a track of everything and there are less bugs that way.
Though I wouldn't mind getting better solution for doing so!

Jeff, we finished already few big games so it is possible but often we had to give up something or create something completely in different way than we planned because of issues from CF. Like this one with animations (if you run two animations in the same time with the same speed they should be synchronized but they don't if you have a lot of animations in game) or this bug when CF sometimes eats or cloning event without the user's knowledge(This happens only if you have a lot of events) even layer object have bugs for IOS (Sort object don't work like for windows and Android) so CF need support and this is great idea to get founds to improve it.

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It's a bit pain in the ass to copy events and objects over like Enchantainment mentioned, but I don't mind doing so. At least I can keep a track of everything and there are less bugs that way.
Though I wouldn't mind getting better solution for doing so!

The better solution would be to put everything in Global Events, keeping everything nice and sorted in groups and activating/deactivating them as necessary. The problem with this is that qualifiers are not allowed in global events or even in behaviors (which can be made global to achieve the same effect). This is one of the worst and most arbitrary limitations of Fusion's scripting IMO, but I can understand that there may be logistical problems in the backend. This is why I'm glad they're finally re-writing the software in F3.

But as-is, the best solution I know for multi-frame games that use qualifiers is what you said. Don't put anything in behaviors, just group it all in the event editor, and every time you change something, you'll have to manually copy it from frame to frame. If you felt like splitting your code into qualifier-related and non-qualifier-related events, you may be able to get away with performing this tedious step less often.

Many devs just ditch the frame editor altogether and do the entire game in a single frame with a custom level editor (like Knytt Stories for example). This does offer you a little bit more flexibility if you feel like taking the time, and it's absolutely necessary for some types of games (I've had to do many pseudo-3D isometric perspective games in this way).

Event List Editor in Fusion 2.5

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I would pay for this

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Actions on the right in the Event List Editor of Fusion 2.5

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The better solution would be to put everything in Global Events, keeping everything nice and sorted in groups and activating/deactivating them as necessary. The problem with this is that qualifiers are not allowed in global events or even in behaviors (which can be made global to achieve the same effect). This is one of the worst and most arbitrary limitations of Fusion's scripting IMO, but I can understand that there may be logistical problems in the backend. This is why I'm glad they're finally re-writing the software in F3.

But as-is, the best solution I know for multi-frame games that use qualifiers is what you said. Don't put anything in behaviors, just group it all in the event editor, and every time you change something, you'll have to manually copy it from frame to frame. If you felt like splitting your code into qualifier-related and non-qualifier-related events, you may be able to get away with performing this tedious step less often.

Many devs just ditch the frame editor altogether and do the entire game in a single frame with a custom level editor (like Knytt Stories for example). This does offer you a little bit more flexibility if you feel like taking the time, and it's absolutely necessary for some types of games (I've had to do many pseudo-3D isometric perspective games in this way).

But when you use global events you can't use list event editor so if you want to change order you need to make new event so it is painfull

Weird, I wasn't aware event list editor couldn't be used in global events. If I want to change order of actions within an event, I usually just double-click any square in that row, which will bring you to a list for just that event (works in global too).

If we could kickstart the Vita exporter....

I still think CT would be best off implementing usability improvements, such as: Please login to see this link.

Things like that will make the product quicker to use

Yes PBarwick

Maybe a edit box in which to write the object you are looking for

Hey ! there is some cool news here ! if you kickstart i would love to be a backer !

Some of these requests I believe are above the scope of what could actually be done for 2.5. But fusion 3 should be no problem.

Cooking something up, I appreciate everyone patience.

I think the best of all worlds is for Clickteam to sell the iOS exporters by year. For example, this fall the iOS 10 exporter could be sold for ~$150. Keep it constantly up to date with quick turn around. Next fall, the iOS 11 exporter goes on sale ~$150 and support for iOS 10 exporter is dropped.

Clickteam isn't bogged down with dead program updates, we all get current fixes in a timely manner and Clickteam keeps generating a fair profit.

Also, have an exporting service for any runtime. Clickteam could easily perform those functions and generate those profits themselves.

I think an excellent idea, I would pay for that and would have new products annually, that if the basics must be covered in each issue and work with the latest Xcode Apple.