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if you add "only one action when event loops" to events #5 and #7, the sounds play. You couldn't hear them before because they were trying to play from the start every single frame, so you only ever heard the first tiny portion of the sound file (which was quiet). Holding the mouse button on the debugger essentially pauses the game, allowing the sound to play to the end. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by c4t
This update beta was released 3 months ago, is it still in beta?
Seems we still go the fake positive for EXE released on Steam... I don't understand how you, guys, distribute your games for PC if they are always flagged by anti-viruses... :(
Not really Clickteam's faut. Whenever a idiot makes a malware with Fusion, any apps made using the same runtime and extensions can also get flagged cause they share code.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dobermann
Pretty sure a legit buyer wouldn't make malware, so I blame piracy.
Even stuff that you build years ago can get flagged now, cause what changes isn't Fusion, is the antiviruses databases.
Clickteam did informed most antivirus companies about it and did changes to prevent it, but as long people keep making bad stuff it will happen.
There are a few ways to prevent it, like sending your app to antiviruses company saying it's legit and virus-free, using the Unpacked EXE option, avoiding a few extensions if you don't really need it, or even signing the exe (which you'll have to pay a significant amount of money early to a security company to sign it).
This is not a thing that's only happening to Fusion apps, I've seem apps written from scratch in C++ being flagged recently (For exemple Mario Multiverse game), must be because new viruses were targeting people working at home in quarantine.
Thanks for the help Volnaiskra i got it sorted now with your help. The bug was me lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Volnaiskra
Probably won't be added, but it's definitely an interesting finding...
I've discovered these two image file types: PBM and PPM
These two filters are similar to BMP, but the whole point of the is that you can create those with plain text.
PBM is B&W and PPM is full color.
The most interesting part of it is that it would be possible to generate images during runtime on any platform with it, without a special extension.
For example, an value array could be converted into a visual image.
Thought about these cause I use Surface to generate a temp image that I then load on Active Picture object, but this wouldn't work on mobile cause there's no Surface object for it.
Being able to draw with plain text would be fun and might be useful.
Seems like Get Last Caret Position can only update either if you click on the text or press up/down. Left or right will not update it, it does move the caret but doesn't update the value, which I think it's a bug.
Interesting enough it also won't update if you press up or down if your cursor is not on top of it, even when the Edit box have focus.
On Android it behaves similarly but has its own issues, hooking a keyboard to my device I noticed that left and right wouldn't move the caret at all. (up/down does move it tho)
Is there any chance we could get hotkeys (ie. menu items) to move actions up or down in the Event List Editor? This could be good for events too. For example:
Edit>Move Action Up One
Edit>Move Action Down One
Edit>Move Action To Top
Edit>Move Action To Bottom
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Edit>Move Event Up One
Edit>Move Event Down One
Edit>Move Event To Top
Edit>Move Event To Bottom
Completely agree, Fusion needs a more keyboard shortcuts, although it's called "Clickteam", using the keyboard or a Strem Deck is way faster than clicking and dragging, or in some cases cutting and pasting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Volnaiskra
I did made a small AHK script that can move conditions, which I guess can work with actions too, but the problem is that you can't really move the selection bellow the last condition/action...
In the case of conditions, it will move to the next event, it's currently impossible to paste a condition/action after the last one.
So here's my suggestion: Change Ctrl+V to paste a condition/action AFTER the current selection and Shift + Insert to paste BEFORE the selection, currently both do the same, would be a neat shortcut and it just makes sense.
I don't think it would confuse anyone cause people are used to paste and then move around by dragging these... But the shortcut would makes things faster and easier, could also be used to move up and down with my script flawlessly.
*ahem*: https://community.clickteam.com/threads/108885-Handy-Autohotkey-scripts-for-FusionQuote:
Originally Posted by NaitorStudios
Please post it. (I totally want that script!) :)
Will there be a time when new things are not added to Fusion 2.5 and it goes into a fix bugs only stage of development? imoho I say lock it down asap and focus all extra time on F3.
It seems that every new beta or version is followed by a massive thread with multiple requests for new things or extra ways of doing things to be added.
Maybe these new things could be added to a suggestion list thread for things that Fusion 3 could do. Then the community can discuss or add input to help give the Clickteam Devs ideas and thoughts on them.
F2.5 is great and works well as it is. of course fix bugs and make updates to the exporters to keep them working due to outside changes. Please just work on F3.
I think they have separate groups working on F3 and F2. You don't hear much from the F3 group on the forums though. At one time they did share a lot of their work, and there was a massive Fusion 3 suggestion list thread which was buzzing with activity, but that backfired on them because people got so excited that they started expecting Fusion 3 to be ready just around the corner, when in reality Clickteam still had a lot of work to do on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by c4t
But at any rate, many of the feature additions that they might do now for 2.5 will probably impact 3.0 too. For example, I don't know if Fusion 3 was originally supposed to have an Event Explorer window, but I'm sure it will now that they've added it in 2.5. And I'm sure that over the coming months they'll gather feedback and make improvements to the 2.5 Event Explorer, which also means that they'll be able to get it right the first time when they add it to F3.
Also, Fusion today is miles better than Fusion 2.5 when it was released in 2013. Back then, flags were unnamed, the Frame Editor was slow, the Event and Event List editors didn't sync properly, Global Events didn't work very well, and none of the incredibly useful 2.5+ features existed. They've made a lot of really significant improvements to it, but it's taken them years to get here. The same process will occur when Fusion 3 eventually comes out. It will be ok, but it will have bugs, unported extensions, missing stuff they didn't have time for, and a massive to-do list of user suggestions. Even if Fusion 3 came out tomorrow, it's not unreasonable to expect that it won't feel as polished and feature complete as 2.5 does today, until the second half of this decade. Nobody wants to hear that, but I can't see how it's going to be any other way. That's not a criticism of Clickteam, just an observation of the realities of software development.
So I'm pretty happy that they're still working to improve Fusion 2.5. I'd rather one near-perfect engine than two engines that both feel like works-in-progress.
I don't think that 2.5 feels like a work in progress. Also I think F3 will be pretty good when it comes out. Its been worked on since 2016 so almost 5 years of development. From what Ive read its also been the main program used by Clickteam professional services to export games to consoles including switch.
If 2.5 was 64bit and had native mac support, played well with modern graphics, file sizes and integers without workarounds, I would find it a lot easier to just wait and say nothing.
Looks to me like wants, outweigh needs for a lot of requests. That's just my opinion and cool if others have different ones. Really props to the team for making it work at all and catering to the never ending requests. Its been mentioned many times that Clickteam is a small company. Was just trying to suggest that all resources are put towards F3. What ever happens ill keep using it and just hope the team more time to work on it and get to a release date.
Just to clarify, neither do I. But only because they've kept doing great work on it these past several years. If they had dropped it and devoted everything to Fusion 3 five years go, that would have been a different story. So I'm grateful for the approach they've taken.Quote:
Originally Posted by c4t
Exactly my point XD. 5 years is a very short time for something as big and complex as Fusion 3. Fusion 2 was already 13(!) years old when DLC2.5+ came out, bringing with it many features that feel like core essentials today.Quote:
Its been worked on since 2016 so almost 5 years of development.
But they obviously won't keep working on F2.5 forever. I think you'll probably get your wish sooner rather than later.
I don't think that's quite it... Remember it was ClickTeam who actually announced a release date / window! F3 was going to underwhelm and they knew it!!! Hence the time it has taken. I beleave Fusion 3 will be 2.5 and a whole lot more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Volnaiskra
Also, Fusion today is miles better than Fusion 2.5 when it was released in 2013. Back then, flags were unnamed, the Frame Editor was slow, the Event and Event List editors didn't sync properly, Global Events didn't work very well, and none of the incredibly useful 2.5+ features existed. They've made a lot of really significant improvements to it, but it's taken them years to get here. The same process will occur when Fusion 3 eventually comes out. It will be ok, but it will have bugs, unported extensions, missing stuff they didn't have time for, and a massive to-do list of user suggestions. Even if Fusion 3 came out tomorrow, it's not unreasonable to expect that it won't feel as polished and feature complete as 2.5 does today, until the second half of this decade. Nobody wants to hear that, but I can't see how it's going to be any other way. That's not a criticism of Clickteam, just an observation of the realities of software development.
So I'm pretty happy that they're still working to improve Fusion 2.5. I'd rather one near-perfect engine than two engines that both feel like works-in-progress.[/QUOTE]
oh my, Vol! You paint a pretty bleak picture! I understand what you're saying but that scenario won't wash! The competition is too strong! Especially in open source! Things like unported extension..... forget about about it! This is Fusion 3. New ways. New workflows. I'm for breaking as much, if not ALL things 2.5 in Fusion 3! "feature complete as 2.5 does today..." ? 2.5 is hardly feature complete! Native Controller support remember (to name just one)? I think there will be some people invested in 2.5 wanting things from 2.5 in 3 but I say...... Tough beans! Let give 2.5 a Viking funeral!
dang! I got my quotings wrong! :( sorry! :) I can't seem to edit...?
People laughed at me when I said Fusion 3 wouldn't be ready by 2016. They probably thought I was being bleak then too. But I was simply being realistic.
Think I may have found a bug. If you use the "Mouse pointer is over an object" condition, and then select the Button Object (in my case, a button object set to be a checkbox control) as the target object, it doesn't seem to function at all. It works fine for Active Objects as you would expect, but seems to not like button objects despite them being selectable in the dialog box when you're choosing the object.
Disregard the above post. It's working fine, there was another event in my code that was conflicting with my Mouse over object" events.
small bug:
Hitting Ctrl-C on an item in the Find Toolbar doesn't seem to actually copy anything (using the right-click menu does)
https://bit.ly/3DqpzBC
Hi, just found a weird and unusual bug:
If you put a string and try loading the Timer value (eg: Str$(Timer) ) on it you'll get a black rectangle in the place of the string if you don't have any other objects in the frame.
Oddly enough adding any other visible object doing nothing to the frame solves the issue, but removing it will make the issue appear again.
(seems that it only works for graphical objects except UI elements. So Active, Backdrop, Counter, it works when these are in the frame, but for example a Button won't do it)
I can't reproduce this. Maybe provide an MFA, in case it's something to do with your MFA's precise settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by NaitorStudios
Default settings, just a single String and a Always event setting it to Str$(Timer).
Seems like any graphics object will make it work, even if you have two Strings instead of a single one.
But still, if you have only one object and it's a string showing the Timer, it will fail.
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Here's the MFA:
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Here's the APK:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cYg...ew?usp=sharing
"Keep screen ratio" in window properties seems to don't work with ultra wide screens. The screen is stretched...
Are you resizing the frame window with Window Control object?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dobermann
I know that Window Control object has some trouble with certain resolutions and will just stretch instead in some situations.
"Enable debugger keyboard shortcuts" on App Settings Properties seems to not be hooked to anything.
It doesn't do anything, there are no debugger keyboard shortcuts, or at least, there's no mention about it anywhere else.
Even Francois have said once that there was no "debugger keyboard shortcuts", so I'm now asking what's that about, if it's somehow broken or was never fully implemented.
IIRC certain F keys (F2?, F3?) control things like "pause" and "resume" while the debugger is open. I remember disabling that checkbox long ago because they were preventing me from using those keys for my own purposes.
F2 restarts the app and it's defined on the App's menu bar. "Enable debugger keyboard shortcuts" won't affect it.
And F3 does nothing ...?
I just don't understand why Francois would said that there is no debugger keyboard shortcuts, you can search the forum for it and you'll find he mentioning it, other than that you'll only find confused people.
Here you go:Quote:
Originally Posted by NaitorStudios
Source: http://www.clickteam.com/webftp/files/mmf2/ChangeLogs/288.2.final.txtQuote:
Build 288.2 - Change log
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- Debugger: keyboard shortcuts are (at last) implemented (Ctrl+F8 = Pause, F10 = Step, F8=continue, Shift+F8 = Quit, F2 = Restart, Ctrl+O = Add object)
F2 does indeed work regardless of the checkbox (perhaps that's a bug), but I can confirm that F8 and Ctrl-F8 are affected by the checkbox (I remember now that wanting to reclaim F8 was the reason I unchecked this checkbox long ago). Needless to say, the [lack of] documentation in the Application Properties panel leaves a lot to be desired.
IIRC F2 is defined in menu, if you delete this item it will has no effect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Volnaiskra
As said above you can delete it in application menu editor:Quote:
Originally Posted by NaitorStudios
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@Volnaiskra thanks for finding this! I couldn't find any other mention, this should be on the Help contents!
@Linky be aware that deleting it might not remove the shortcut, you need to remove the shortcut before removing the menu entry or it may still work.
When I set 8 qualifiers for an object, the button is grayed out and I cannot add anymore.
Is there a limit of qualifiers that can be set for one object?
Yes, there's a limit of 8 qualifiers per object.
"Visible at start" checkbox option for Backdrops / Quick Backdrops would be very useful
I already know that I can set the alpha coefficient of the backdrop to 255, but that would also make it invisible in the editor
And I also understand I can add backdrops for Actives then delete them all at start of frame, but that would require every "invisible backdrop" to be an Active in the first place which has it's ups and downs
So a simple checkbox like this can make a difference as sometimes you only want backdrops just for collision purposes :)
No, no object used. I use the general properties.Quote:
Originally Posted by NaitorStudios
Possbie Bug In Fusion. I am using the most recent version. I only have to display the names in my event editor, and not display icons. However, special objects still display an icon.
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A new WebView2.5 object with webview2.0 API is a great idea ;D
I second this. The current WebView object is practically unusable.
I don't know if this is a bug or a known limitation, but the Event Explorer window doesn't update when you move or duplicate a group. (It does update if you rename, delete, or add a new group)