Build 293.10 - Release version

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Originally Posted by waw_demmon

I notice that the action "Add to the backdrop" won't care about active object scale and rotation. It will simply paste original image but it's not very usefull to ignore theses properties. Do you plan to fix this ?

I join a simple sample that show the issue.

Thank you !

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IIRC paste requires bitmap surface, but fusion now uses hwa texture (which has a function to rotate &stretch by hardware), it's slow to convert both type and it's also slow to stretch bitmap. So due to performance issue, I don't think it's possible in 2.5. I have made a custom version of picture object and implemented a paste with scale action, it's slow and useless in most cases, unless your object is very small and don't need to paste frequently.

the function screenshot is not working for the android object, and i need to use the screenshot function for my game !

Maybe at the place Fusion should offer more options for drawing a shape on backdrop collision mask. Options for editing collision mask are limited and didn't evolved a lot since Klick & Play.

I notice that Fusion won't rotate shapes in the good order, so if you rotate an object and if you test for collision after, collisions will be tested with last rotation value, the overlapping's objects will not the goods objects.

Workaround require a two frames process but it's not alway easy to do.

I join a mfa file that to reproduce the issue.

Thank you

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Originally Posted by waw_demmon

Maybe at the place Fusion should offer more options for drawing a shape on backdrop collision mask. Options for editing collision mask are limited and didn't evolved a lot since Klick & Play.

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Why not just using actives? In D3D backdrops are also re-drawn each frame, so there is no worry about performance. You can use a flag to scope the “backdrop” active or just duplicate a dummy.

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Originally Posted by defisym

Why not just using actives? In D3D backdrops are also re-drawn each frame, so there is no worry about performance. You can use a flag to scope the “backdrop” active or just duplicate a dummy.

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Next update will add condition "Is overlapping At (X,Y) condition" so it will be possible soon... This is why I'm still using backdrops currently.

...Sooo when are we getting actual active flipping? Is it literally impossible to add? Having to duplicate every single animation just to flip them is a waste of space that could be used for something else in your game.

And yes I know there's a shader, a shader only available for Windows runtimes which limits you to that shader only and that's it :(

I'd like to see flipping for Active Direct Show also.

Mouse-scrolling the Expression Editor's Alterable Value drop down menu is a bit laggy, which gets very noticeable when you have ~40+ altVals in use. It seems to be related to a smooth-scroll feature (you flick the wheel once, and it slowly and smoothly scrolls several lines; subsequent flicks must wait until the first scroll is finished before they are executed, and thus can pile up). Could we perhaps have an option in the preferences to disable this smooth scrolling?

+1 for the Active object flipping without the use of a shader.

This seems really basic and should in my humble opinion definitively be a feature.

Hello everyone again,

here's what I found out about this bug. I tried to remove some option in the game proprieties and when I remove the "Heading" in the Window Option the bug got away. so the "Alt" button is surely linked with the Heading. The thing is that I want the heading in my game for player to close the game easily with the "X" button. I also use Windows 11. In Windows 11 there is no "menu bar" showing whatsoever if the Menu bar option is enable or not. (I need to use the action "Show Menu bar" in the event editor to show up). If I do so and the "heading" is still not active the bug come back so the bug is about more the Menu Bar than the actual Window Header.

Then I tried some stuff out with the "Advanced Menu Object" but I didn't find anything working out to remove this bug. I tried a lot of combination and the only thing I can get is to disable the "Heading" for now until this is fixed.

I hope someone will respond to this message.

Have a nice one everyone!

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//FrUm GlitchyDust!!1!

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Originally Posted by GlitchyDust

Hello everyone,

I've got a bug for years with the "Menu Bar" in fusion and at the moment I'm using the Build 293.10 Steam Version. It was suggested by NaitorStudios to post on this thread since BugBox is Offline.

The actual thing is that the "Menu Bar" behavior with the "Alt" button is weird. Even if you keep the "Menu Bar" enable or disables or even if you change menus in it or keep it the defaults option the bug happen.

The bug itself is that the Application is "Pausing" or "Slowing" depending on the option of "Run while minimized" and "Run while resizing" is toggle or not when you press the TAB button.

To make the bug happen, change the application window with ALT-TAB for example then come back to the game and just press ALT. The application will pause. You absolutely need to defocus the application and refocus it.
(You don't need any Fullscreen mode or anything)
If you use the option "Run while minimized" and "Run while resizing" in the game properties the game won't "Pause" but the game will be laggy with about 30 FPS visually and practically it output that the framerate is actually about 30-40FPS

I tried a lot of thing to make a workaround it with extension and such but I didn't find any solution yet. A workaround might do for now but it seems that many Fusion game suffer from this and some developers might not even know. (At the moment there is no such way to completely disable the "Menu Bar" it's only possible to not show it and you cannot even remove everything inside of it because it come back if you do so. It's been for years)

Here's an MFA file with the same information in it. https://filetransfer.io/data-package/VMxWn2CX#link
(There is also the attachment here : Attachment 31395. If the link is not working at the moment that you wanna download the example, message me for the MFA)

Side notes : I've tried other Fusion game like Inexistance and it seems to do the same bug, Then I tried FNaF 3 and it didn't. :o

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//FrUm GlitchyDust!!1!

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I have two requests for Build 294 (Perhaps these have already been suggested by another clicker.).

1. Synchronization of the Frame Editor folder with the Event Editor folder.
2. Create folders in folder.

Are these possible?

@ASD You can already add folders inside folders, just drag them inside.
But syncing folders could be interesting, although I would prefer it as optional.

@Yves I dropped you an email about keyboard events not running, did you get it or did the zip attachment make it not go through?

Really? I don't know how to do it. I tried dragging a folder and overlapping it on other folder, but it wouldn't go in.

Hmm perhaps I'm misremembering, cause I do remember seeing folder structure on some mfas before, seems like you can only do it on event editor then.

Hello,

I found a bug with the Advanced Movement extension in the event editor. on a "distance between two point" event if you double click on an specified object to change the actual object then select another object. It didn't apply the change. you need to redo the event.

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//FrUm GlitchyDust!!1!

well! when can I see the 294 version

next year

Nah just kidding (I hope), it's been said on their discord that they're finishing the implementation of some things that don't work very well at the moment, so, HOPEFULLY (and it would be pretty cool!) it comes out with the next week and next month.

I have a question: is it possible to make a realtime Qualifier disable feature for object(s)?

I hope the time is finally right to add the possibility to flip an active object!

+1 for native flipping an active object without shader necessity.

Yeah hope that's coming soon, don't know how proper active flipping, of all things, is still not in by default in Fusion and for all platforms after all these years.
But hey I don't code, what do I know.

yes please add a flip fuction. it will save a bunch of game resources.

Would be cool to have a thread exclusively about Build 294 already or something like that, feels like the hype's died down a bit

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Originally Posted by Peeblo

Would be cool to have a thread exclusively about Build 294 already or something like that, feels like the hype's died down a bit

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https://community.clickteam.com/threads/109565-Next-Fusion-update-looks-amazing

BUG:

You can insert/paste "Ghost Code/Actions" in the Event List Editor. If you create a Child Event, [Right Click] on the empty line titled "New Condition" and Paste while an Action is on your Clipboard (Though I'm uncertain if plain text breaks things as well), it seemingly does something and the Editor even recognizes this an an undo-able modification.

Attachment 31460


I've encounter this application breaking issues multiple times in the paste, with my only option being to delete large groups of code in order to remove this invisible code. I'm crossing my fingers that this is the main cause so that we can finally fix this and I don't have to worry about it showing up again ����

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Originally Posted by Volnaiskra

There's a glitch that happens when the Layers Toolbar is docked and folded on the side of the screen while using a non-maximised Frame Editor window. When you're dragging an active object on the Frame Editor, the Layers toolbar seems to mistake the edge of the Frame Editor for the edge of the main Fusion window, and automatically unfolds whenever the active object happens to touch the edge of the Frame Editor. This can be a bit laggy and distracting, but the main problem is that it prevents the Frame Editor from scrolling when this happens (and since you dragged an active object to the edge, scrolling the Frame Editor is probably what you were trying to do).

This glitch happens on both left and right sides (ie. if you dock the Layers Toolbar on the left, then it'll also unfold if you drag an active object to the left side of the Frame Editor window)

https://bit.ly/3ODogFM

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Originally Posted by NaitorStudios

Guys, you do realize that the next update will completely replace the API used for the graphical interface and be DPI aware, meaning these issues will probably not be present there, right?

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It's still there ;)

Never mind me - just discovered the Skin Editor!! -- only played with it for 15 minutes -- I'll be able to quickly make something pleasing to my eyes!

https://i.ibb.co/bm1GwPb/zz.png

not sure why I can't edit or delete my post... posted in the wrong thread, excuse me!

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Originally Posted by DaveC

not sure why I can't edit or delete my post... posted in the wrong thread, excuse me!

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About 2 years ago, they had a sign up that said that due to maintenance works, some forum functionality like editing will be down for a couple of weeks..........We haven't been able to edit posts since then X)

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Originally Posted by Volnaiskra

About 2 years ago, they had a sign up that said that due to maintenance works, some forum functionality like editing will be down for a couple of weeks..........We haven't been able to edit posts since then X)

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lol classic Clickteam <3

Bug: Create is case sensitive, while Create by Name is not:

https://bit.ly/3Bax0Pn

Would it be possible to get a new expression currentLoopIndex that gave you the loop index of whichever fast loop was in the current event's "on loop" condition (without having to explicitly specify the name of the fastloop)? It would make using loopindexes a little easier and more readable. It would also make reusing code between different fastloops easier. And it'd prevent bugs caused by changing a fastloop's name but forgetting to update subsequent loopindex expressions.

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Originally Posted by Volnaiskra

Would it be possible to get a new expression currentLoopIndex that gave you the loop index of whichever fast loop was in the current event's "on loop" condition (without having to explicitly specify the name of the fastloop)? It would make using loopindexes a little easier and more readable. It would also make reusing code between different fastloops easier. And it'd prevent bugs caused by changing a fastloop's name but forgetting to update subsequent loopindex expressions.

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maybe not possible, as fusion doesn’t save loop index by stack (you can retrieve loop index after loop), which can just return the last one.

Speaking of loops, would it be possible to get the number of how many times a loop has run? would be useful in some cases.

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Originally Posted by Linky

Speaking of loops, would it be possible to get the number of how many times a loop has run? would be useful in some cases.

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Retrieve loop index out of the loop will return the total number of loops if I got you correctly.

The INI++ (v1.5) Rename Item action is broken. It ignores the "new" name and tries to rename the "old" name to the "old" name. When run, this causes a Crash To Desktop.

https://bit.ly/3cynxXI


https://bit.ly/3OAM4Zt

whenever i try to start ctf after installing this update, it just brings me to the creating frame window and then closes after half a second. ctf loader is still present in the task manager.

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Originally Posted by yepmulti

whenever i try to start ctf after installing this update, it just brings me to the creating frame window and then closes after half a second. ctf loader is still present in the task manager.

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What's the name of the CTF Loader you are talking about?