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It's not removing extensions, it is completely skipping loading extensions, restarting didn't helped, nor Verify files integrity from Steam.
I've just solved by making a clean installation and copied my backup over WITHOUT overwriting any original files.

No idea what's that about, I think I had a error message when it started happening but I didn't gave a good look at that, it never showed again and it started skipping all extensions.
(and no, the extensions aren't on the list of extensions to skip)

Edit: I just mentioned having to manually install every extension cause I thought one of them were corrupt.
It could be a built-in extension that triggered that, no idea, since copying my whole backup without overwritting just the original ones did worked fine.
Perhaps it could be something else, like a corrupt dll, or runtime, something... But the strange part is that these couldn't be replaced by Steam when verifying.

Edit 2: OH NO, happened again...

Okay, I've discovered what was the issue on mine at least, probably other people have got this because of a variation of this.
So, I had a tool that I've created that had a specific word on it's file name, that was triggering the Steam DRM making it skip loading all extensions lol

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Originally Posted by NaitorStudios

Okay, I've discovered what was the issue on mine at least, probably other people have got this because of a variation of this.
So, I had a tool that I've created that had a specific word on it's file name, that was triggering the Steam DRM making it skip loading all extensions lol

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Ah I see what you mean.

So, idk know if this was suggested before, but if not, it would be very useful if we had an option to change the default properties for Application, Frames and Objects

For example:

• Applications: I mostly uncheck the menu bars, set the border color to true back, uncheck heading when maximized and enable both "Resize display to fill window size" and "Fit inside(backbars)" options
• Frames: I frequently set the Object count to: 30000 (maximum)
• Objects: mostly change "Inactivate if too far from window" option to No, uncheck "Destroy object if too far from window" and check "Do not reset current frame duration when the animation is modified" options

I don't know if it will be easy to implement for objects however, as different types of objects have different properties from each other, but at least the ability to change them for Active objects would be great

When editing texts, if you double click on a word, editor will automatically highlight the word you are clicking, both available in fusion's expression editor and other editors like VS Code. But fusion behaviours differently: e.g., VSCode will treat '_' as part of a word but fusion doesn't, which means sometimes we need to select word manually when copying texts from external editor. Don't know if it's possible to modify this, or at least provide a preference item that allows user to set which character is the edge of a word.

Adding Linky's suggestion, I would like to set a default icon and default custom qualifiers (of course it would require that shortcut that resets it just like the app icons, in case I want to share the mfa with someone without 2.5+)

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Originally Posted by Linky

So, idk know if this was suggested before, but if not, it would be very useful if we had an option to change the default properties for Application, Frames and Objects

For example:

• Applications: I mostly uncheck the menu bars, set the border color to true back, uncheck heading when maximized and enable both "Resize display to fill window size" and "Fit inside(backbars)" options
• Frames: I frequently set the Object count to: 30000 (maximum)
• Objects: mostly change "Inactivate if too far from window" option to No, uncheck "Destroy object if too far from window" and check "Do not reset current frame duration when the animation is modified" options

I don't know if it will be easy to implement for objects however, as different types of objects have different properties from each other, but at least the ability to change them for Active objects would be great

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For objects you could make your own library with various versions of default objects and just drag & drop them from the library window. Same thing for frames, you can make a library with different default frames and drag & drop them from the library window to the application in the Workspace toolbar.

Oh, it actually works, but not if the mfa on the library have a single frame, if it have a single frame it opens the mfa as separated app.

? Not sure if I understand about "it opens the MFA as a separated app".

It's by design to avoid a click when a library has a single frame, which is usually the case for object libraries. If you want a library of frames just make a library app with several frames, not sure what's the problem with this.

No, not a problem, just means if you need to load a frame template, it cannot be the only frame of the mfa on library, or you'll not be able to drag it to the current application.

Could you please add a explicit Application User Model ID for Fusion itself on the next update?
Seems like a fairly simple thing to add... It doesn't have many uses, but would be cool for Tools.

In the case, I'm making some tools for Fusion and would like these tools to run under the same taskbar button as Fusion, all I need is a defined Application User Model ID.
Would be very appreciated, it's most likely just calling a single C++ function or setting it on the project.
Here's more about it: SetCurrentProcessExplicitAppUserModelID function (shobjidl_core.h) - Win32 apps | Microsoft Docs

Edit: just to make it clearer about my tool, it's a app that would allow installing extensions and shaders by dragging and dropping it to the pinned shortcut on taskbar, when clicked it would just open Fusion instead.
Hence why I would like the two to be using the same taskbar button, this way people wouldn't need to pin multiple icons just to get a new functionality...

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Originally Posted by defisym

When editing texts, if you double click on a word, editor will automatically highlight the word you are clicking, both available in fusion's expression editor and other editors like VS Code. But fusion behaviours differently: e.g., VSCode will treat '_' as part of a word but fusion doesn't, which means sometimes we need to select word manually when copying texts from external editor. Don't know if it's possible to modify this, or at least provide a preference item that allows user to set which character is the edge of a word.

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Adding Gifs that show the difference:

Fusion:

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VSCode:

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Originally Posted by defisym

Adding Gifs that show the difference:

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The selection in Fusion is done by the Windows Rich Edit control used by the expression editor, not by some code in Fusion itself. Maybe we could do it manually but that would require some work.

Minified PNG files with bit depth of <8 do not consistently load in Fusion. ImportImage() loads them with no issue, but ImportImageFromInputFile() creates a cSurface with depth of 0 that can't be blitted from.
IMPORT_IMAGE_USESURFACEDEPTH has no effect.

I've attached an example image. Typically, the TinyPNG service will make these images.
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Hmm, can I see your code? ImportImage just creates a CInputBufFile and then calls ImportImageFromInputFile. Also the ActivePicture object directly calls ImportImageFromInputFile and can perfectly display this image.

I noticed something with Sub-app that kind of breaks this workflow I have. Explaining this will go everywhere, so I'll try to word it right, srry

So I have two MFAs, One is the Main Game and the other is Sub-app. Whatever I do in the Sub-app, the main game needs to have it preloaded. So let's say there's a sound to play in the Sub-app. The Sub-app will work on its own but if it's in the main game, it won't play unless I have the same sound already in the main game. I tried loading the sound by path, it works in the Sub-app MFA but not in the main games... ONLY IF I have something in the selected sound channel in the main MFA. It works fine if you run it in the editor. but if I built it... it won't work. I have to have a dummy item loaded into the mainframe to have it work.

Same for a lot of other stuff. Sounds/Sounds channels, Fonts, (extensions If the main game is in Unpacked mode),etc.

More things I ran into and Suggestions:
- Having the Machine independent ticked in Sub-app and the main game has a double effect which drops fps. with V-Sync on, both makes the fps worse.
- Actives with the Global Object ticked that's in the main game frame do not work with Sub-app that also have the same object/settings ticked. From what I have tested.
- Sub-app display as sprite should be renamed to "DX9 Fullscreen Mode" ex; previous conversation I had with Yves, You mentioned it was for the DX9 Fullscreen. I feel like if it was renamed it would lower confusion newbies.
- An option to have the Sub-app size scale with the root app size/ size the sub-app object is in. ex; Resize to root app display
- Have Sub-Apps act as a sprite. ex; previous conversation I had with Yves x2, as stated that something like this is on the wishlist, Hope that entry is high on there lol. so many useful workflows can be done if it was possible.

Besides Sub-app stuff there is a bit of DX11 stuff I like to see be updated, if possible.
- Depth buffer
- Texture Lods
- Vertex Shaders
- Buffers
- Font Anti-Aliasing toggle
- Font external importing
- Ability to use the bounding box on strings for Shaders/effects instead of text itself. ex; found some fonts has noticeable clipping with some effects.
- more Shader uniforms for xml. ex; vector2,vector3,better RGBA color input. maybe ability to get output of some values back?
- !if Possible! The ability to take layers into some sampler for Shaders to use. be nice to have layers as passes for some Shaders

Anyway that is my suggestions and problems I noticed on Sub-App. My thought is: Was Sub-apps designed to only work with frames on the same MFA instead of a different MFA?
I feel like if they where updated or some new option to have frames as file/ new frame object. It could open so many new paths to do in CTF.

@Yves

Quick suggestion for debugger.
Could it Show X mouse and Y mouse somewhere?? That could acutally help debugging.

Nvm x y mouse, it's really easy to create fast custom debugger in few minutes. Focus on F3. good luck with it.

Small image editor bug i encountered: If you

1) hold down one mouse button
2) draw on the canvas
3) press a second mouse button while the first one is still held and continue drawing

the undo feature will only undo any drawing done after step 3, and will ignore any drawing done in step 2. the next undo will still revert any changes done prior, but not any changes made during step 2.

addition to my post..

maybe a `Jump to Frame, Keep previous Graphic in memory` option?
I can see this useful if some character perishes then it goes to a game over screen. and the coder has a retry option. that goes back to the overworld frame with faster loading.

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Originally Posted by Tyrexchip

DX11 stuff I like to see be updated, if possible.
- Depth buffer
- Texture Lods
- Vertex Shaders
- Buffers
- Font Anti-Aliasing toggle
- Font external importing
- Ability to use the bounding box on strings for Shaders/effects instead of text itself. ex; found some fonts has noticeable clipping with some effects.
- more Shader uniforms for xml. ex; vector2,vector3,better RGBA color input. maybe ability to get output of some values back?
- !if Possible! The ability to take layers into some sampler for Shaders to use. be nice to have layers as passes for some Shaders

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Second this. The only thing I'm personally interested in is more DX11 updates. DX11 is imho easily the best feature fusion 2.5+ brought but it seems like it hasn't been getting the love it deserves. AFAIK there's still no true fullscreen mode for example. More and more AAA games are dropping DX9 support (which is what, like 20 years old?) and according to steam's hardware survey pretty much everyone (99%) has a graphic card capable of doing DX11 so I see little point in using DX9 at all.

Hello, in the next update, can you create a function thanks to which you can see in which frames a particular audio sample is playing, if it's not difficult?

Hi, is it possible to add the "reverse active points" option for active object? When I rotate sprites with the FlipX Shader, the hotspots are not positioned correctly on the other side. Or just add normal option to programmatically rotate/flip for animations. Thanks.

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Hello, in the next update, can you create a function thanks to which you can see in which frames a particular audio sample is playing, if it's not difficult?

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If I got you correctly, now you can see which sample is playing in which channel in the debugger.

Could it please be added on the next update a option to accept loading a incompatible .mfs (save frame position), removing the warning if checked.
I know this was probably added to avoid loading a incompatible file and getting a crash, but seems like incompatible mfs may work without a problem sometimes but the warning appears and it quickly restore the previous state.
Just add on the description of the toggle that it may cause a crash on the app if the app was heavily modified.

Honestly I think that warning shouldn't be there, since we already can set a version number, so the version number could be used alternatively to prevent loading a file that the dev is sure that will cause a problem.
For example, the game relies on mfs to save states, the dev makes a update and test loading the previous mfs, it works without any problem, so it's safe.
If for some reason a update makes these incompatible on the testing, the dev just increment the version number to avoid loading mfs from the previous update.

Seems like a pretty simple change, you just have to add a toggle that bypass the warning and give the usual routine of loading a mfs file.

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Originally Posted by NaitorStudios

Could it please be added on the next update a option to accept loading a incompatible .mfs (save frame position), removing the warning if checked.
I know this was probably added to avoid loading a incompatible file and getting a crash, but seems like incompatible mfs may work without a problem sometimes but the warning appears and it quickly restore the previous state.
Just add on the description of the toggle that it may cause a crash on the app if the app was heavily modified.

Honestly I think that warning shouldn't be there, since we already can set a version number, so the version number could be used alternatively to prevent loading a file that the dev is sure that will cause a problem.
For example, the game relies on mfs to save states, the dev makes a update and test loading the previous mfs, it works without any problem, so it's safe.
If for some reason a update makes these incompatible on the testing, the dev just increment the version number to avoid loading mfs from the previous update.

Seems like a pretty simple change, you just have to add a toggle that bypass the warning and give the usual routine of loading a mfs file.

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Even if you change a single line of event this can cause bad issues. IIRC it saves flags for every single event line, so if any event line is added or removed in the middle of the events this will cause issues.

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Originally Posted by Kage

Hi, is it possible to add the "reverse active points" option for active object? When I rotate sprites with the FlipX Shader, the hotspots are not positioned correctly on the other side. Or just add normal option to programmatically rotate/flip for animations. Thanks.

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Not possible as hotspots are associated with individual images, sorry.

Sad to hear about Save Frame feature, I guess it it was a bit more flexible it would help a lot.
Tyrexchip suggestions are also interesting, specially the ones for shaders, some of which I have suggested before.

Anyway, I know I've asked for DeltaTime expression before, but I have something to add that might make it more relevant.
As we all (or some of us, really) know, built-in movements and animations use the Movement Timer value.
Movement Timer is a almost hidden option that is actually super useful, but we can't read or set Movement Timer during runtime for some reason.

A while ago Upp made a extension that read and sets Movement Timer for me, and it worked surprisingly well.
But, it can only be done for Windows with the current SDK, and I feel like this could be even more useful...

So what if we had this action:
- Set Movement Timer

So what if we had these new expressions:
- Get Movement Timer
- Get DeltaTime

DeltaTime value being this equation:
(timer - previous frame timer) / (1000.0 / Movement Timer value)

It might be more precise and efficient than programming it through events, and of course, would be simpler as well by using Movement Timer instead of predefined values (Eg. 60).

But another thing that could be really interesting as an easy to use alternative to "Machine Independent Speed" option...
What if we had a toggle for "Run events based on Movement Timer", meaning it would be instant, easy to use, "DeltaTime".
Would be great for people that have problems when the game runs in lower FPS, meaning built-in movements would keep consistent speed but events would run in a lower pace, causing a lot of issues.
Would also save a ton of processing for apps that need to run events faster but don't need to render more frames, useful for applications.

I know that the SDK has a supposedly deltatime variable, but I have no idea what that outputs, what's the equation behind it, and if it's even hooked to Movement Timer (or anything really).
So that might be a place to start.

Oh no, just discovered that value arrays can't use floats, would this be possible to add?

Also NaitorStudios about deltatime: yes! would be very nice to have this built in to make framerate independent movements easier and more efficient!

@SirEatAlot you can use on a string array, but it will take more a bit more resources.
You would have to use Val( ) to convert it from string into a proper value.

+1
Such a pain to string/value convert and makes your expressions harder to read

Thanks NaitorStudios but in this case I wanted a value array specifically for speed and performance :)

Even better would be a multi type array where the variable type for each cell could be set independently, mixing values, strings and floats

@SirEatAlot If you're focusing on Windows, you can try Binary Array, it supports a wide range of variable types, you can have multiple arrays of multiple types in the same file.
Pretty sure it supports floats... Would be awesome if this extension where available for more runtimes since it seems more efficient than regular Array object.

Hi,
Thank you very much for this "Export Animation" and "Load Animation" feature which avoids to export all frame files and corresponding hotspots and action points. It also spare the need to prepare a dummy object with the exact number of dummy frames as in the original animation.
It made my ActiveObjectExporter extension obsolete which is actually great.
I do not know if it was asked before but I have a few questions/suggestions:
- I did not manage to export all animations at once, just the current selected animation. Would it be possible to have an option to export them all at once in different files (object_0.anm, object_1.anm, ...) or just one file for all?
- Since these exported anm files needs to be imported at runtime, would it be possible to load all files from a folder and subfolders (typically a data folder with animation, sound and data files) in the binary data menu instead of adding them file per file. It will allow the developer to embed all the files at once when building the exe. If there is already another easy way to do the same thing, please tell me.

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- I did not manage to export all animations at once, just the current selected animation. Would it be possible to have an option to export them all at once in different files (object_0.anm, object_1.anm, ...) or just one file for all?

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IIRC it will export all animation of one active at once. And when you import it, the hierarchy of target object's animation is changed to the origin object. Personally I recommend to at least have a dummy animation for fusion to retrieve animation name.

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Originally Posted by defisym

IIRC it will export all animation of one active at once. And when you import it, the hierarchy of target object's animation is changed to the origin object. Personally I recommend to at least have a dummy animation for fusion to retrieve animation name.

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I tried yesterday and I was confused by the export menu with "from"/"to" frame options. But I tried again today and it is exporting all animations. That is great thanks.

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instead of adding them file per file

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The Binary Data tab allows you to import several files at the same time.

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IIRC the Binary Data tab allows you to import several files at the same time, am I wrong? I'll check.

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Adding more files is working. I mean a folder tree structure. For example:
resources
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sprites
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| backgrounds
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| | background1.png
| | background2.png
| units
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| | heroes
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| | | hero1.anm
| | | hero2.anm
| | enemies
| | |
| | enemy1.anm
| | enemy2.anm
| effects
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| effect1.anm
| effect2.anm
sounds
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| movement
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| magic
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| weapons
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data
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Honestly would be pretty cool if we could have an alias name on Binary Data elements, so it wouldn't be a massive url as name... It would allow a "folder structure" cause it wouldn't really be a folder, just a name containing "\"