Hey, i was wondering if Izzy would be converting his Scrollbar object from mmf1.5
I havnt heard anything, and i am unable to locate a email address for him!
MMF1.5 = http://www.clickteam.info/extensions/extview.php?id=162
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Hey, i was wondering if Izzy would be converting his Scrollbar object from mmf1.5
I havnt heard anything, and i am unable to locate a email address for him!
MMF1.5 = http://www.clickteam.info/extensions/extview.php?id=162
I know a replacement was in the works (not by Izzy). Vortex2 stated:
[]I already wrote a Scrollbar object for MMF 2, and the only reason it isn't out is becuase I am waiting on Yves or Francois to fix the scroll pause bug. I won't release it until that is fixed.[/]
No one has heard from Izzy in years and years.
So I doubt it will ever get converted
[]No one has heard from Izzy in years and years.
So I doubt it will ever get converted [/]
True, but it is Vitalized.
Hmmm then Yves can convert it over <img src="/center/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
I know he would like to contact Izzy first but that might be impossible.
well i would like it as the only alternative is using active x - and also loads of my apps use it!
And maybe the Slider Bar object? I did an exhaustive web search to see if I could turn up any sign of Izzy - zip, nada, nothing.
Steve
[]Hmmm then Yves can convert it over[/]
Unfortunately I haven't the source code of all the vitalized extensions. When an extension was not "dangerous" I didn't ask for the source code, I vitalized directly the COX file... I haven't the source code of the ScrollBar and SliderBar objects.
Yves.
Yeap I wrote a replacement. I would really like to see the pause bug fixed though... Any chance this can happen? If I get confirmation that it has been fixed, I could have it out the door within a day of that announcement.
brilliant, cant wait to hear from that!
[]When an extension was not "dangerous" I didn't ask for the source code, I vitalized directly the COX file...[/]
errr... I just made a new ext. called the Powerless Extension, could you quickly vitalize it without looking at the source because there is absolutely NO* dangerous components at all!
* = not garunteed
lol :P
AFAIK Izzy was a moderator and trusted extension developer.
Vortex I seem to remember a member of Clickteam telling me that the scrollbar bug is a problem with windows or the SDK or something - making it therefore impossible to fix I think. I'm quite sure it was brought up before..
I'd appreciate either way if you could release the extensions because the bug won't affect my application, plus if it can be fixed it would still work with your extension anyway, right? (so it wouldn't matter if you released it before or after the bug was fixed).
But saying that I'm 90% sure I remember somebody telling me the pause bug cannot be fixed..
It is not a problem with windows, it is a problem with MMF 2. If it can't be fixed then I can't be bothered to release the extension. I am not going to release it if it doesn't work correctly <img src="/center/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />.
This problem is due to Windows. <img src="/center/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> When you drag a scroll bar, Windows switches to modal mode, i.e. the GetMessage function (or another one) only returns when you release the mouse button. Only the WindowProc function of the window is called by Windows during this time. That's the same problem when you resize or move the window of the application.
Could you send me the source code of your extension? I'll try to implement the system I've done for the "run while resizing" option and if that works I'll add the solution to the SDK.
Yves.
Ok, I will get that to you in a few minutes.
Yves, I sent you a private message with the link.
I hope this can be resolved soon <img src="/center/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />.
It'd be a great shame if you didn't release the extension, whether the "bug" is fixed or not.
I'd find the extension very useful in my applications - as I am sure many others would as well. The bug was present in Izzy's extension anyway.
Like I said, if you don't release it - then there is no scrollbar extension at all (and it's very unlikely somebody else would make one..)
Yes it would be a great shame, however I want to make sure that either the scrollbar will work correctly, or it won't exist at all.
I can post a demo version for you guys later today though <img src="/center/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />. It won't allow you to use it in released projects, but it will allow you to get accquantied with it.
I also hope Vortex releases it with or without the bug.
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and it's very unlikely somebody else would make one
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Why would you say this? I bet if one doesn't show up soon someone will make one.
Well I think somebody would make one eventually - but if Vortex didn't release it I couldn't exactly see a scrollbar object being released soon. To me Vortex one of the most active extension developers at the moment - at least I'm not aware of anybody else who would think about making a scrollbar object.
im just happy if someone somewhere releases one! lol
Here is a demo version for you guys: EasyScrollbar
The completed, full version will be released as soon as Yves fixes the bug <img src="/center/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />.
[]Here is a demo version for you guys: EasyScrollbar
The completed, full version will be released as soon as Yves fixes the bug <img src="/center/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />. [/]
Are you going to add actions for showing/hiding the scrollbar? Looks good, though. <img src="/center/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Yeah I will do that eventually :P.
Whoa. This is what I always wanted! Finally the bar changes sizes. Can't wait for this to be released! Very nice job, vortex2. Very nice indeed.
cool, cant wait for the final release! Well done Vortex - you the man!
hey, i was just playing around with active x controls and i noticed that the scroll bar object doesnt have a pause
does it work with other people?
http://x-volt.com/source/scroll_bar.mfa
the only thing about using a active x is that will it work on every computer?
[]Here is a demo version for you guys: EasyScrollbar
The completed, full version will be released as soon as Yves fixes the bug <img src="/center/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />. [/]
Excellent, great Job, Vortex !!!! <img src="/center/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> I'm testing it <img src="/center/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Excellent work! I've been testing your scrollbar, though... And my app doesn't pause when scrolling... Are you sure that It's a bug?
Hey nice work Vortex2,
Just some coments,
- I was wondering if you could make it so when the vertical button is checked/unchecked the width and height are swapped as well. That way it would be quick and easy to clone the scrollbar to creat a horizontal bar. Plus I recon it would look better.
- Some events, suggestions "is max" "is min"
- Also will there be any chance colour control properties, actions & expression?
- Transparancy effects any possibility in the future?
- Finally rotation, imagine a scrollbar for isometic games, any possibility? Maybe even only 45°.
- Is this windows based, cos can you change the style of the buttons, like on top of each other?
Thanks Vortex2.
Joe.
[]hey, i was just playing around with active x controls and i noticed that the scroll bar object doesnt have a pause
does it work with other people?
http://x-volt.com/source/scroll_bar.mfa
the only thing about using a active x is that will it work on every computer? [/]
I just loaded the MFA and it says I don't have the activex scrollbar 2.0 - then it just names the frame as "Deleted frame" and its empty <img src="/center/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
[]I just loaded the MFA and it says I don't have the activex scrollbar 2.0 - then it just names the frame as "Deleted frame" and its empty[/]
Hmm... that's a bug, it shouldn't continue loading the application, I'll fix it.
Yves.
Well I got a message saying "Would you like to continue loading the application?" and I clicked Yes :P
Such stylizations are impossible becuase it is the standard windows control. The only way I could do such things is to make it owner drawn but that is a can of worms that I dont really feel like opening :P.
Yeah I suspected that about the stylisation.
What about the vertical horizontal switch swapping the width and height values when toggled, possible?
I have found a bug, if I make this :
On scroll
> Set counter to EScrollVal
Test, and move the scrollbar to the maximum, the counter will show 91 and not 100 (max) <img src="/center/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
Your page size is probably set to 9 / 10
Page size = how much the bar itself represents, so a big page size makes a big bar, but makes the maximum scroll position smaller.
I think Vortex left out the Visibility Actions. I can't hide the scrollbar lol <img src="/center/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
You can at edittime but not at runtime currently. I will add that for the final version.