Problem when Objects are not in the frame

User clicks
+Mouse pointer is not overlapping Object1
+Mouse pointer is not overlapping Object2
+Mouse pointer is not overlapping Object3
----> do something

doesn't work if all objects of type 1,2 and/or 3 are destroyed. Is this a bug? It's annoying to make several additional events to work around. After all, an object that doesn't exist can't be overlapped ;)

Make sure you have the latest official patch, as this has been fixed.

I'm using Build 247

I haven't tested this, but there may a workaround. How about assigning value to someplace when all objects of type one are destroyed, same for object 2 and 3. Say, you add 1 for counter 1, when object 1 is destroyed, 1 to counter 2 when all object 2 are destroyed, et etc.

Then you go:

User clicks
+counter 1=1
+counter 2=1
+counter 3=1

----> do something

That's right, there are ways to workaround. But that also means more complicated, less efficient code.

The workaround I saw was to keep an instance of each of the objects off-screen.

You're really sure you're using the latest version? :)
I tested the events you wrote above and it works perfectly. This used to be a bug in previous versions.

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Originally Posted by Popcorn

I tested the events you wrote above and it works perfectly.

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Strange, you are right, these events really work:
User clicks
+Mouse pointer is not overlapping Object1
+Mouse pointer is not overlapping Object2
+Mouse pointer is not overlapping Object3
----> do something

BUT...
...I wrote this example, because it was the most simple way to describe the problem. In my case the mouse pointer is hidden and an Active Object is set to Xmouse/Ymouse. And I don't test the mouse pointer itself, only the "Active (Mouse)". Since this detail makes an important difference, here's the original code which definitely doesn't work:

User clicks
+Active (Mouse) is not overlapping Object1
+Active (Mouse) is not overlapping Object2
+Active (Mouse) is not overlapping Object3
----> do something

As a workaround, I put the Objects 1-3 in a group. I have a dummy object which is member of all groups. While this object exists outside of the visible area, this event works:

User clicks
+Active (Mouse) is not overlapping Group1
----> do something

Of course, this may cause confusion. You have to keep this problem in mind whenever checking for the number of group members. And you must not simply destroy group members leaving the screen, because you have to keep the dummy alive...it's really a source for self-made bugs which can be hard to track. Especially if you don't remember these details when making changes after some time has passed.

The "Select Object" helps with keeping dummy members of qualifiers alive:

Qualifier is outside play area
+Select: Deselect First 1 "Dummy"
-Destroy Qualifier

Cool option! But I don't like workarounds caused by workarounds, featuring 3rd party extensions which aren't part of an official Bonus Pack, at least ;)

Just encountered a similar problem, where AOs should be paralyzed while covered by some kind of stasis field, which forces me again to care about an unnecessary stasis object out of view.

I face this kind of problem frequently, while doing only some basic stuff, so I'm wondering if this may be fixed in the future?