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No, I said it did not work from the beginning and if it did not work from the start then it's not a function of the object there for it's not a contradiction but an observation and the post never said a thing about DR to begin with we don't even know that it's needed for the job! If not, as with the apps I have used MOO for, then it works fine!
It is a function of the object, the actions are there and it's in the documentation.
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meaning it's not finished, hence a partial product and no matter how you slice it, how much functionality it has more than MOO, that is what it is right now so get over yourself.
Maybe you should get over yourself. You just started attacking me over one post that I made because of something MechaBowser did. That's pretty messed up.
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These are not errors but limitations and for you to sensationalize the limitations as errors to make your product look better is childish on your part and not needed as OINC speaks for itself. You can thank DarkKiller for doing your job for you in his post as those are the real issues with MOO and go beyond the limitations.
Well, now you have your real issues. Go test OINC.
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I did not take anything out on you and I never said MechaBowser annoyed me so please don't put words in my mouth. I just said I did not like the way he addressed me and there for he can figure it out himself, but did respond to your post I found somewhat snotty...
I fail to understand how the way that MechaBowser addressed you had anything to do with me or with OINC. I'm pretty sure when you have a little tantrum at someone else, writing a few paragraphs on something completely unrelated.. that's taking it out on them.
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As a moderator of this site you should know better than to push alpha products to users who are making something for release.
You're using the moderator thing again. As a developer, it is my duty to encourage people to help test improved products. Who better to test than the people who are using Moo already? What better way to test an extension than to develop a game with it?
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While I also feel your product should be tested, used, and pounded on by many users, in alpha format it should only be used in a testing environment
Well, it was me who gave it alpha status. I could quite easily say right, this is a release, but I'd rather it get tested thoroughly first..
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and from what I can tell you have not set one of those up yet for the public to pound on. Correct me if I am wrong but I don't see a public OINC server yet there are several MOO servers that people can play with, though they are somewhat unreliable from what I understand. If you want people to use the object more there needs to be a public server environment they can use.
There's two reliable public OINC servers running 24/7. Get your facts straight before you try to use them against me.
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I just ask for a link to the docs, not support, not much time and yet you feel you are above that?
There isn't any docs. There's a few examples in the testing forum which should get you started.
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I have done support for years and never have I felt the need to brush off anyone who has ask for help from any of the 4 companies I own no matter how small the question is.
Well, I would have answered it if you just posted it in the subforum. Unfortunately, you chose to attack me instead, so I guess you never got anything back.
There's a reason we have public forums. Other people ask the same questions as you do, and it's helpful if they can just search.
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We develop for international banks, local government entities and international companies and as the owner I answer the question then direct them to the proper location to get the information in the future, that is support!
I don't really care.. why are you advertising your company again?
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You have a lot to learn yet based on your support comments as when giving suggestions to people you should also address their question as well,
Well, I think that's for me to decide. You have a lot to learn about crying that people aren't civil when you can't be civil yourself.
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POT/KETTLE If you can't deal with providing users with the information they need to use your object then you need to shut your doors as you were the one who was unwilling to provide support to a user who just ask for docs.
Who said anything about unwilling to provide support? I asked that you post it in the public subforum so I can respond to it there, so that anyone else with the same question can just read it. I don't think that's too much to ask of you.
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You talk about how I repeated your announcement of the MOO API errors, you will notice that in the english language this is done as support for making an additional point that stems from the original point as I have done.
Unfortunately, the vast majority of your points were invalid.
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I also want to apologize for the "keep your mouth shut comment" as I see it means more to you in a negative manner than it does for me and that was not the intent at all. Keep your mouth shut and do your job is how I was raised
I can tell.
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the point is by pushing a alpha or beta product to people who are developing a release product you create confusion
No, I pushed it to people to test. I don't think that creates confusion.
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and as a moderator part of your job, I would think, is to help reduce confusion about the product the users have paid for (MMF).
Moo and OINC were not included when you paid for MMF. They are an additional privilege provided for free to the userbase.
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Yes, it will if you do it right and I can help you do so if your interested in making it happen.
What, it will improve if nobody tests it? What?
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Now we have 2 choices here. We can use our intelligence to battle back and forth to see who has the larger IQ and this post will be closed
Yes, and I'll close it.
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We can use our talents and assets to provide a viable public server environment for the OINC object. I am sorry that your not getting the response you would like for OINC as I feel it's an important object and something that is needed by MMF users. I would be willing to help you reach that goal by putting up a public OINC server if your able to put this behind us as it is stupid! I can give you access to that IP and I will set up a server there for you if we need a dedicated server.
There's already two available, but if you want to set up a public server, the resources are readily available. There's a server written in C++ to run on Windows, or a server written in Python to run on any platform.
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This does not change my opinion that alpha and beta software should not be pushed in a development environment and that doing so is wrong on many levels but by reaching your goal then my issue goes away solving both our issues.
Well, I'm glad we came to an agreement.
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Your understandable need to want and need the object tested and my desire to keep the confusion to MMF users to a minimum by not pushing a partial product just because it needs testing.
Well, if people are going to be converting their Moo projects to OINC at a later date, they might as well start off using OINC.
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This is what Microsoft does and most people hate about their OS, it's also the reason they are going to abandon Vista, it was pushed in to a release environment before it was ready and it's to hard to go backwards to fix the programming.
I never had a problem with Vista, and Microsoft are a very successful company!
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Are we adult enough to get over ourselves and put together a public server environment or are we going to stomp our feet and be right?
Well, I didn't start this off. If you want to set up a public server, I am fine with that, and I will cooperate in any way you want.