2nd Frame Screenshot?

Normal screenshots are simple as is taking one of a frame, however what i can't do is take a screenshot of a frame thats not visible so frame 2 etc from frame 1. Is it possible?

Basically what i want to try is like in graphics apps where you have a basic preview and a render button. Preview is simple but whatever i try i can't get it to render the second frame.

I have tried switching in a fastloop/event then back at the end i get a blank screen returned. I have tried putting the Screen Capture object on the second frame and triggering it by globals but it doesn't trigger until frame 2 is the active/visible frame.

I think if the Screen Capture object allowed you to enter a frame number it would be simple but it doesn't. Is it possible? or if not any ideas how to render a image of another frame from the first another way? thanks

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No, screen capture obj. does, as in name, SCREEN capture, not frame. You must somehow jump to this frame and tell her (global vals should be useful) to make screenshot.

Sub-app object? That allows you to show (actually run) another frame without leaving the first frame.

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No, screen capture obj. does, as in name, SCREEN capture, not frame. You must somehow jump to this frame and tell her (global vals should be useful) to make screenshot.

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I tried this but could not get it to work, if anyone has a working example that would be a big help. The problem i got is via globals it wouldn't trigger without the frame being in focus, since i don't want the user to see that i tried a fastloop but got blank images back because it won't trigger correctly.

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Sub-app object? That allows you to show (actually run) another frame without leaving the first frame.

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Thats nothing to do with what i want really, i need it to render a .png / .jpg etc rather than preview the next frame. Sorry i should have been clearer about that, subapps i can do with no trouble. As far as i know you cannot use the Screen Capture object on a sub app though, when i try i don't see anything from it.

I think it might require a actual new MMF feature or extension to be able to do it, whatever i try i can't get it to work but if it's possible hopefully someone knows.

Can't you just capture the frame before-hand yourself and just show an image of it at runtime? It's not like a frame that isn't running will change at all...

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Can't you just capture the frame before-hand yourself and just show an image of it at runtime? It's not like a frame that isn't running will change at all...

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It is running though it changes by globals, you oviously don't get the idea or are thinking of something else, it's suppost to be a graphics app that previews the results on the first frame with a render button to save the results (frame 2) full scale to an image.

Even though it seems like a very simple task basically it seems like MMF can't handle this sort of thing due to missing extensions/features.

Atom, can you provide a small example of your work thus far? I am still confused on what your graphics results will be. You say there are changes that will be reflected on a second frame. Are you causing various objects to move or appear when the second frame is loaded?

You could just view the second frame with the Subapplication Object without using a screen capture.

Here is an example:
www.skiosk-esd.com/clickteam/MMF2_examples/View2ndFrame.mfa

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Atom, can you provide a small example of your work thus far? I am still confused on what your graphics results will be. You say there are changes that will be reflected on a second frame. Are you causing various objects to move or appear when the second frame is loaded?

You could just view the second frame with the Subapplication Object without using a screen capture.

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I didn't save anything because it wouldn't work whatever i tried. I was trying to make a template for it because it's such a basic feature in graphics apps yet MMF can't do it easily sadly.

Thanks but you misunderstand and i have alread said a few times now just viewing the second frame with the sub app is not what i want. However a preview is part of it and it's basically like your example only i want it to save the image also.

What i want is a rendered image of the 2nd or another frame so actually a .png or .jpg saved of the frame after clicking a button and selecting a save location. I want to do it all via the first frame after clicking a button.

So i already had a preview and setup just like in the mfa you posted but now how do i make it save that preview in the original view you would see if it was actually on frame 2 to a image format?

I have actually requested a extension for it as it seems theres actually no way in MMF2 to do it -

http://www.clickteam.com/epicenter/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=130528#Post1305 28

But even Looki who makes great extensions said it's probably not possible. I think it will actually have to be included in MMF and that seems like it won't be anytime soon. MMF is doing a HWA update to improve graphics yet it doesn't have basic stuff like this by default already which is kind of frustrating as i want to make audio/graphics apps with it mainly.

ok, how is the "rendered image" being added to the second frame? Perhaps there is a way to do this but I need more detail please.