MMF2 HWA Beta #10 (updated - 2)

Hi everyone,

Little update, beta #10 of MMF2 HWA :

MMF2 Standard
MMF2 Developer
TGF2

This build is a beta version, please make backup copies of your applications before loading them with this version!

Let us know if any problem with this build, thanks !

Yves.


Bug fixes and new features


- Runtime : possible crash (D3D8) or memory leak and possible problems (D3D9) when you restart the application when the "resize display to fill window size" option is selected, or when a layer has an effect.

- Runtime : The "Resize display to fill window size" option is now ignored in full screen mode if the "Keep screen ratio" option is selected.

- Runtime : backdrop objects always visible in first layer even if this layer was hidden.

- Speech Bubble object : not displayed correctly in sub-apps with the "display as sprite" option.

- Screen Capture object : the Capture Frame Area action now works in HWA mode.


It also contains all the bug fixes of the normal version (only in the main program and in the HWA extensions, you have to install the patch of the normal version to get the fixes in the Java runtimes and in all the other extensions).

I just tried this build with my project.

The memory leak with subapps still exists just so you know. :(

Hope it get's fixed someday.

Cool, thanks Yves!

Did not detect any backwards compatibility problems, but I do not use full screen nor restartable applications either >.> looks good though

Fantastic, thanks Yves.

Thanks :D

One question, do the "Keep screen ration" works with all widescreen monitors? Or not every monitor?

Suddenly the string object is displayed wrong in Saira, some right aligned text in subapps appears to the left (but not all). I tried to reproduce this in a smaller example but couldn't, and I got spend all time on the game as the material deadline is on Friday and I must work hard to stick to it. HWA build #9 will work for now!

Perhaps I can give you the entire game, that would make things easier for me? I think you might even have an earlier version of the game with source included. In case you do, check the ship radio.

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One question, do the "Keep screen ration" works with all widescreen monitors? Or not every monitor?

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I don't understand the question, it works on any monitor.

OK Nifflas I'll check the game you sent me.

Force Anti-aliasing issue when resizing with Intel on-board VGAs.

resize_d3d.zip
320x240 => 640x480

Direct3D 8
http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~bp-827z/...esize_d3d8.png

Direct3D 9
http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~bp-827z/...esize_d3d9.png

Intel 910GML and 945GSE chipset machine, force anti-aliasing in D3D9 mode though unchecked "Anti-aliasing when resizing".

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Originally Posted by Yves

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One question, do the "Keep screen ration" works with all widescreen monitors? Or not every monitor?

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I don't understand the question, it works on any monitor.

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Oh yes, in early betas, the 'keep aspect ratio' wasn't function properly on a wide monitor we do have here. Tested now and it works :)

Many thanks!

Active picture can load max image size is 2048x2048?
2049x2049 pixel image doesn't displayed.

Probably your video card doesn't support textures larger than 2048x2048. If you want an HWA application to work on any machine, you should limit your images to 512x512.

hm... This limit only external loading image?
Active object and Backdrop object too?

Any image is affected by this limit.

OK, Thanks!

http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~bp-827z/.../hwa_debug.png

HWA color mode only 16M colors?
Windows number of colors set to 16bit, but not changed application color mode.

I suppose that MMF still works with 16 million colors internally, but outputs them in 16 bit.
How did you get that information in the window title?

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Originally Posted by Looki

How did you get that information in the window title?

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used command line option "/DEBUG"

Ah, thanks. Didn't know that.

Update: I've uploaded a new beta 10 that addresses the "Hide Layer 1" issue reported by AndyH and the "Capture Frame Area" issue reported by Nifflas.

I reported that a while ago. Oh well, glad it's fixed now!

HI,

just wanted to mention that "Visibility->Flash" does not work on "Active Object" within script. I hope this will be fixed in next release. Very important for me.

regards,

Hi. On your event to flash the active, make sure you put:
Only one action when event loops

Marv

Found an interesting bug involving the standard menu. Note: my operating system is Windows 7 so it may be related.

If you press the Alt key to bring up the menu (to execute single-letter keyboard shortcuts to the menu) the menu does not respond. The menus do not become available, nothing happens.

heres the workaround:

Run this event once
- Set focus to an edit object (eg. one that's out of the frame, so it's not visible to end users).

The menu now responds to Alt commands.

I have found some bugs in the HWA version with the button objects which is maybe because they are windows controls (i think) but they seem to show at runtime. Anyway -

Button Object -

It works but if you put 2 of them close together in radio button mode (maybe others) even if sized so they don't overlay you get glitches.

Bouton CS (Button CS) -

I cannot see it in frame but i can if i run/start the runtime and then it is visible.

I'm not quite sure what you mean, I may need to clarify

- By outside of the frame I meant the play-area, so the object couldn't possible be visible. If you can see objects outside of the play-area your version of MMF is a lot different to mine :-)

- I also meant Edit Box (which is aka Edit Object in the description).

You're right though, it also works if you set focus to a Button Object.

I'm also unsure what you mean by Button CS.

You read what i said the wrong way ;)

I was actually reporting 2 bugs i found rather than replying to you. I have edited the above post also.

I often just reply to the last since MMF forum is based on a old script i don't usually go all the way to the top of the page again to make a new reply but often just use quick reply so it makes it look like im replying to you.

I think a lot of people do this though and in the feature requests thread someone changed the title and there was loads of posts with that title yet totally different topics. I just noticed this today and set it back to the original in my last reply. So i guess many others on the forum do the same thing also, sorry for any confusion. :)

Does anyone else notice that the marquee that normally shows around objects when you drag them around, is gone? This makes it a huge hassle to drag and drop objects... well, anywhere. Could someone confirm this and hopefully get it fixed asap?

Do you mean in the Frame editor? Everything seems normal on my machine.

Seems to work for me, i did find a new simple glitch though thats not that important but still a glitch.

If in HWA MMF and you select a object and hold the arrow key to move a objects position and keep it help the layer view will flicker, the object selection will flicker and also the frame edge highlight will do this.

If you do this in the standard version the layer graphic will do it and the object selection also but not as much as the HWA versions, theres also no frame edge flicker in standard.

Again not important really but seems like a bad refresh when updating the data.

Strange. I'll need to either take a screenshot or record it whenever I get home, because It's actually really frusterating. The + cursor when you're creating a new object, is a lot thicker.

I found out the issue. It's related to the patch I put on Windows that turns off the marquee selection box on icons on the desktop. It's horridly ugly and with this said, do you think it's possible that you could include an alternate box into MMF2 for this very reason? I'm sure it can't be too difficult.

The click and drag marquee doesn't show up either, however all of this stuff works fine in programs like Paint and Photoshop. Please Yves? Love you long time? <3

PS: The blue box around selected objects does still show up! Could be useful to know.

I doubt anyone is going to fix something which is only not working because the user has broken their OS.

Yeah but look at it this way. It's one of the very few programs out there anymore that still uses the old marquee. You never know if Microsoft is going to be releasing, even in a service pack, a patch that gets rid of it all together, simply because it's ugly on the operating system menus itself. Plan ahead and get of it now. Please? Seriously, this is annoying. :/

They wouldn't remove it, too much uses it. They might stop using it themselves, but it would stay supported.

Your hack removes it altogether instead of only disabling it on the desktop. It's its fault, deal with it.

Hey everyone

Could it be that the "old shaders" of mmf2 (the standard shaders like add or substract) do work now in the new hwa version? I remember i read that they dont work in hwa, but i just tried them out again (more an accident) and they seem to work. Is there maybe a but?

cheers

Jot

Add and subtract are new for HWA. It's OR/XOR/AND that don't work in HWA.

Great! Thanks, thats good news :)

Sorry if this was already noted, but I noticed that "visible at start" doesn't work-- everything is ALWAYS visible at start regardless the state of the check box. Sorry if this was already known.