Sponsors & Licenses

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15th July 2010, 03:35 AM
jasonorme

Sponsors & Licenses

Hello everyone,

Well first of all i've got 10 games on Mochiads, the oldest being 128 days old, the most recent being 8.
Now dispite making a total of $491.84 making anything from $5 - $20 a day

Now due to the limitations of the SWF/Flash Runtime for MMF2 i'm pretty sure i'm limited to just MochiAds at this time.

But my friend (a long time flash game developer) said the big money is in getting sponsored or selling the licenses.

I'm just wondering if anyone has had any luck with that while using MMF2, as I get lots of offers from people to buy my games but i'm too worried that due to the current limitations that I wont be able to add "their ads" or whatever it is that they want me to do.

In an ideal world I'd like to get paid to release a version of my game with their splash screen and a link on the title screen to their site, and then do the same for another site, but i'm just so unsure of it.

Of course the money from MochiAds is nothing to moan at, its fantastic, but sometimes I have to wonder if its being wasted on MochiAds, or for the now being i'm stuck with it.

So please, let me know if you have any advice.

Note: I'd also like to add that i've been on sites like flashgamedistribution, but feel i'm way over my head, all this API and different types of licenses, its all very confusing.
15th July 2010, 03:44 AM
Tisnart

Re: Sponsors & Licenses

Wow!
That's encouraging to hear you are doing so well with Mochiads.
May I ask what games do you have on the site?...I would like to check them out
15th July 2010, 03:49 AM
jasonorme

Re: Sponsors & Licenses

Keep in mind all these games are below my normal standards, I can certainly say i'm NOT proud of them. You may even notice G.I Jane & Mr Mine use tgf/mmf library graphics.

Dizzy Turtle and Ted The Bear were however made by my Wife using Flash and not MMF2.

I'm taking a lot of time with my next game though, which is comming along really well (i'm hoping it will show a noticeable difference in revenue)

https://en.mochimedia.com/community/profile/jasonorme666/portfolio
15th July 2010, 10:53 AM
Digitalic

Re: Sponsors & Licenses

I know that forum member Evilized79 has had MMF2 games sponsored.

There are threads on this forum about incorporating MMF2 SWFs into SWFs created with Adobe Flex (the open source ActionScript compiler).

We had started making moves on creating an AS3 preloader, and I have plans to create a template which would enable MMF2 users to easily create Flash/AS3 preloaders and include sponsors' ads, etc.

Unfortunately, I can't dedicate enough time to this project at the moment; it will be end of August and heading into September when I can sit down and put some effort into it.

In the meantime, if you have a game good enough for sponsoring, then go for it; the worst that can happen is that you tell a potential sponsor that you cannot currently accommodate their requirements.
15th July 2010, 12:59 PM
Steven

Re: Sponsors & Licenses

I've got a game up for sponsorship at the moment and all i've added in to the comments section is that I can't include any API's or a different highscore system to the Mochi one. Doesn't appear to be a problem with sponsors so far.
15th July 2010, 01:24 PM
jasonorme

Re: Sponsors & Licenses

how well is it doing?
15th July 2010, 03:55 PM
Steven

Re: Sponsors & Licenses

$250 so far but bidding only started 2 weeks ago (recommendation is to wait 6 weeks) and i've made a shed load of changes suggested by one of the sponsors. The more experienced chaps on the forums reckon anywhere between $600-$2,000... we shall see!
15th July 2010, 05:21 PM
jasonorme

Re: Sponsors & Licenses

Nice, well that has certainly enlightened me.

Hope the game does well.
16th July 2010, 11:15 AM
life2searching

Re: Sponsors & Licenses

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven

I've got a game up for sponsorship at the moment and all i've added in to the comments section is that I can't include any API's or a different highscore system to the Mochi one. Doesn't appear to be a problem with sponsors so far.

out of curiosity where do you have it up for sponsorship, i am interested in testing the water in this area

thanks
16th July 2010, 01:14 PM
Steven

Re: Sponsors & Licenses

www.flashgamelicense.com

Steve
17th July 2010, 08:44 PM
ViNGaDoRjr2

Re: Sponsors & Licenses

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven

$250 so far but bidding only started 2 weeks ago (recommendation is to wait 6 weeks) and i've made a shed load of changes suggested by one of the sponsors. The more experienced chaps on the forums reckon anywhere between $600-$2,000... we shall see!

This prices are for monthly licenses or anual ones?

Ive seen some games being paid 25k dollars for a anual license, and the game in question was just an average game, like the ones that anyone can make.
17th July 2010, 09:09 PM
JosephFTaylor

Re: Sponsors & Licenses

I have put my really rubbish Mega Clicker game on Flash Game Licence and I got offered $100 for it if I put their API into it, I couldn't do the API so I didn't get $100, now other games I will put up for sponsouring I will state I can't do custom APIs and stuff like that.
17th July 2010, 10:35 PM
LB

Re: Sponsors & Licenses

Quote:

Originally Posted by JosephFTaylor

I have put my really rubbish Mega Clicker game on Flash Game Licence and I got offered $100 for it if I put their API into it, I couldn't do the API so I didn't get $100, now other games I will put up for sponsouring I will state I can't do custom APIs and stuff like that.

When Jamie finishes Flash Haxx you can put in custom APIs ;)
17th July 2010, 10:47 PM
Burfelt

Re: Sponsors & Licenses

$100 for your mega clicker game? holy cow, thats insane!
19th July 2010, 03:44 PM
life2searching

Re: Sponsors & Licenses

Quote:

Originally Posted by ViNGaDoRjr2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven

$250 so far but bidding only started 2 weeks ago (recommendation is to wait 6 weeks) and i've made a shed load of changes suggested by one of the sponsors. The more experienced chaps on the forums reckon anywhere between $600-$2,000... we shall see!

This prices are for monthly licenses or anual ones?

Ive seen some games being paid 25k dollars for a anual license, and the game in question was just an average game, like the ones that anyone can make.

has anyone got any examples of these games that earn people 25k a piece? sounds too good to be true, unless they are insanely polished!!!
19th July 2010, 03:52 PM
RayMarble

Re: Sponsors & Licenses

http://www.andymoore.ca/2010/03/steambirds-by-the-numbers/
19th July 2010, 05:48 PM
xhedgehogx

Re: Sponsors & Licenses

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayMarble

http://www.andymoore.ca/2010/03/steambirds-by-the-numbers/

And thats the inspiration I needed.
19th July 2010, 06:32 PM
AngelicTech

Re: Sponsors & Licenses

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayMarble

http://www.andymoore.ca/2010/03/steambirds-by-the-numbers/

Thanks for the link. There is some very good info in that article.

Custom APIs/Actionscript sounds almost crucial to the process if you want to make the big bucks through sponsorship though. Hopefully Jamie can get Haxx working to that point quickly enough. ;)