Advanced Sound Object

This object basically is an add-on (NOT a replacement like Onu) to MMF's sound engine:

• Create and delete sounds from files or memory
• Full control over sound playback via their names (instead of selecting it in MMF's sound dialogue)
• Generate custom sound effects - thanks a lot to Tomas Pettersson and sfxr

I highly recommend you to download sfxr and mess around with it. It's a really great tool and it will help you to use the extension since it is *very* similar to the object' sound generator - You can even import/export SFS files that are used by it.

It's rather late and the examples are a bit messy - nonetheless, I hope that you will enjoy this object. :)

http://clickteam.info/looki/Extensions/Beta/AdvancedSound.zip

Here is a simple demo of the sound generator.
http://clickteam.info/looki/Stuff/SoundDemo.exe

Awesome, thanks for this, Looki! Random still freezes, though.

This is an amazing extension! The possibilities are endless. Great work, Looki. :D

Good stuff.

I could've wished for an extension like this some time ago :) nice work Looki!

Thanks. :)
I have uploaded a new version.
You can get all generator variables via expressions (Old expressions have been removed since they were useless).
The menus are a bit more organized now, and you can disable the genrator completely in the object's properties (for the sake of efficiency), plus you can set the length of the buffer for the sound generator (It's 5 seconds by default).

Nice. Are you planning to make a Flash version?

Very nice.. very good work ! Thank you !

Mokhtar, I haven't looked at it yet but I would like one as well. However, I might not be able to play a sound from a buffer in Flash. I don't know.

Nice extension.

Please teach the method of get the position and length and the looping play.

You can use MMF's inbuilt expressions for that! They take a string parameter anyway.

For example: SamplePosition("Test")

Playing a looped sound is not yet supported but I might add it later.

However you can simulate looping with the expressions:

SamplePosition("Test") == SampleDuration("Test")
+ Set position of sound "Test" to 0

"SamplePosition" and "SampleDuration" are MMF2 sound function?

"SustainPunch( "Advanced Sound Object" )" and "DecayTime( "Advanced Sound Object" )" are not work?

This picture shows you how to do it:
http://i.imgur.com/VCm6D.png

SustainPunch and DecayTime work fine here!

Update. The object has been renamed to simply "Sound Object" - the link is different as well:
http://clickteam.info/looki/Extensions/Beta/Sound.zip

You can now play a sound and directly specify its parameters (volume, pan..). Also, there is a condition that is triggered whenever a sound is played. You can then get the sound index and the channel it is played on via expressions.

Thanks for this extension :)

Just wondering can you use the filters etc on wav sounds you load or just generated? I just had a quick look through the examples and options but it seems for generated sounds only.

For generated sounds only. It would take too much effort (and increase in file size etc.) for it to work on any sound.

I *could* add support for loaded WAV files - No OGG etc. - but that sounds kind of messy. A dedicated extension would be nicer.

That is what i was originally thinking thanks for the info.

Yeah a dedicated effects extension would be much better. Sfxr is mainly aimed at retro sounds also so the filters and effects could be more advanced in another object.

I just sent you a PM by the way, hopefully you got it ok :)

The problem is that MMF's sound engine was not meant for effects etc. - You'd have to use a separate library like FMOD or Bass that allows you to easily apply effects.

Thanks for the PM - Just so everybody knows (I know some people on Gwerdy asked me this before) - I'll port the extension to Flash :) Thanks to Atom who discovered an AS3 version of sfxr!

Ok, yeah Xlua FMOD was probably the most advanced audio for MMF i have seen yet but i think that has some license to it. Most of the time is doesn't matter because you can just render to wav or mp3 sounds but realtime effects like filters and reverb would be very useful. Hopefully MMF3s sound engine will be more advanced though. :)

This is a very useful object though and nice for retro sounds, a flash version will be great so hopefully that code works ok. Thanks Looki :)

http://clickteam.info/looki/Stuff/sfxr.html

Making good progress. Requires Flash 10.

Awesome. Stop it, I am supposed to be working... :)

http://clickteam.info/looki/Extensions/Beta/Sound.zip

Here's the new beta :)

Differences in the C++ version:
You can now get and set variables by index (as they appear in the menus), and load/get CSV strings of them. Also, "Randomize" now randomizes the wave type.

Most notably: A flash version is available! Howeber, only sound generation works, namely:

• Add generated sound
• Play (for generated sounds)
• All the actions in the Generator sub-menu, except loading/saving SFX samples and "set seed"

Note that /Data/Runtime/Flex/frameworks/flex-config.xml will be overwritten so that MMF uses Flash 10! Thanks to StephenL for this.

Again, here's the Flash demo.
It now gives you a CSV string of the generated sound. The mfa is included in the examples.
http://clickteam.info/looki/Stuff/sfxr.html

Nice thanks for the update and flash version. :)

Just wondering with the updates to the flex config could they cause problems for other flash extensions? I ask because i have seen a few objects now need to replace it so i wonder if editing it for one thing might brake it for another. I am guessing this won't be a problem though.

DizzyDoo said that Lacewing might not work (He remembers having that problem with another extension that changed the config). I haven't tested it yet, though. The change in the config is just the Flash version number to use.

Just tested exporting a Lacewing game with the flex-config supplied with this extension and there is an error. Can we have a flex-config that works with everything please? :P

I don't have it to be honest :S

MMF2/Data/Runtime/Flex/frameworks/flex-config.xml
That's what you need. Just ask someone who neither has this nor StephenL's Flash Files extension :)

http://jamie.aquadasoft.com/flex-config.xml

Thanks for the info.

Another quick question, when i tested the new example it worked fine but when i built a SWF of the new example it didn't all show. I think that was due to surface object used for slider controls. Is the surface object (flash) getting a update and also how complete is the flash version in comparison to the standard version?

I have a few suggestions for the Add from file/Playback part of this object which would be really great to have as options -

Conditions -

Is Looping?

Actions -

Playback - Play looped (play file looped)

Playback - Stop loop (stops a looped file from looping)

Expressions/Get Values -

Get Current position of file

Get End position of file

Get Filesize of file

Get Length (Ms/or other) of file

So basically this would allow looping which is very useful to have. The return of positions etc would be good for things like a custom loop for x amount or a playlist where it plays another sound once finished etc. Filesize and length are good for visual stats about sounds etc.

This object is great but this would make it very useful then. With that it would become a really great sound playback system then as well as the sfxr generator part. Hopefully you will like these suggestions, many thanks :)

http://clickteam.info/looki/Extensions/Beta/Surface.dat
Put it in Data/Runtime/Flash, it should work.

About the looping, I don't know yet, I might add it.
I'm not sure about the expressions though. Why would you need them if you can just use MMF's SampleDuration etc.?

http://clickteam.info/looki/Extensions/Beta/Sound.zip

You can now play sounds with loops. Not available in Flash yet.

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Originally Posted by Looki

Why would you need them if you can just use MMF's SampleDuration etc.?

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Thanks for the updates and adding looping. :)

I did not know you could use the default Sample Duration as i was guessing this was separate to that or you would have to load 2 samples. If you load sounds with the object and it's visible to the default sound system without having to load a second version then that would probably not be needed i guess.

Thanks for the info, i will try some tests. :)

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Originally Posted by Atom

I did not know you could use the default Sample Duration as i was guessing this was separate to that

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Originally Posted by Looki

This object basically is an add-on (NOT a replacement like Onu) to MMF's sound engine

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Just so you know, there's a bug that keeps sounds from looping on channels 2-32 - I'm sick though, which is why I was unable to upload the fix yet..

I hope you get well soon!

Oh no! Looki is sick? :o
Get well soon. :)

Hope you get well soon looki :)

I tested the surface update btw and it now builds the example to a SWF well, thanks.

Hi there, i just finished to reading this post, it was so instructive, really, and, perhaps i can make a .mfa with support of FMod libraries, but, for that, i will see how FMod works.

AdvSound (Sound Object) is certainly one of the rare extensions we need to updating, updating and updating!

Amazing work, i'm really happy, thanks Looki.
(and at the passage, The Dungeon Object you had released is really excellent too, but Overlay Redux is not capable to attach image instead drawings lines or drawings forms?)

So, sorry for my english if you can't undesrtand me.. I'm French.

Also try the surface object extension. It is replacing Overlay Redux.

Marv

Yay, ok, i will trying that, thanks nivram (aka Marv) ! ;)

(PS: it exist so many extensions lol.., it's really difficult to choose which i use than other :D)