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Hi all! If you don't mind, I'd like to know what version of MS Visual C++ you use for extension development? Did you have to make any minor changes to rSDK to get it running?
I use MSVC 2008, the free version, and no, rSDK seemed to work fine straight out of the zip, apart from the fact that its default build directory was for MMF Developer of course.
I use the same. It's what most people use, I guess, but many people also use VC6 (from 1998).
MSVC++ 2008 Express
I had to make one minor change to rSDK to not assume that I was using "using namespace std;" in my code. But that doesn't have anything to do with the particular compiler.
My extensions are in VC++ 2005. I should convert them to 2010 really.
I'm using VC++ 2008 Express Edition. I only made a change to the rSDK to fix the expression-in-expression bug. I modified the template project to have come commented out includes that I use often so I can just uncomment them, and I have a header file I include in Main.cpp to help with getting parameters: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/268299/
All but the std::string macros were made by Werbad :)
I also use Release and Run_Only to build to my own MMF2 folder, and Release_Small and Run_Only_Small to build to a Final folder in my project directory that I simply zip up to release.
VC C++ 2008 express edition.
2010 is icky
VS 2008.
2010 sucks. :whistle:
Now you've got me really curious, what did they do to 2010
It's all... purple and stuff. And unfamiliar
2008
Same as well, 2008.
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Looks like I'm the first. It's 2010 Professional here. I'm using the rSDK with no significant modifications.
VC++ Express 2005 because it has the best compatibility with old Windows (VC 6 is even better but there is no Express edition :) ).
VC6 for all my extensions, VC 2008 for everything else. I'll probably move to VC 2008 for extensions at some point.
I generally develop Lacewing in VC 2008, but it's built by a big build script (right from compiling the source files to creating/uploading Lacewing.zip) which invokes the VC6 compiler.
+1 to 2010 being horrible :)
I also use this theme in both VC6 and VC2010 (and in Notepad++ for Javascript).
I honestly don't get the hate for 2010, it's not that different...
(as long as you enable advanced mode from the menu, basic mode hides so much stuff).
I wonder if the improved IntelliSense in 2010 can actually display information about rdPtr in rSDK actions without having to modify the ACTION macro and add all the function headers separately.
VS 2008 and +1 dislike vote to 2010 for some reason - plus I hate the price.
2010 gave me the ebee jeebes. Seemed beyound my gray matter.
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But the express version is free...Quote:
Originally Posted by SortaCore
Nothing's ever free without a catch.
(quote from myself a few months ago)
The usual catch would be "no commercial use", except the VC++ express page explicitly says that there are no limits on using it at all, just certain features are missing.
Specifically:
Doesn't ship with ATL or MFC. Personally I can't stand either anyway, so big woop.
Doesn't have profile-guided optimisation. Fair enough.
Doesn't have the Windows resource editor. Ok, there are free ones, and for extensions I edit the resource files as text anyway.
I think it can't use plugins either, like source control integration.
Personally, I'm fine with all that.
Express is more than I initially expected it to be, so no complaints from me. I don't get any of its missing benefits in MinGW either, and there's no IDE I can pair it with that holds a candle to VC++ (in my opinion, anyway).
Xcode > VS
(I've only ever compiled an extension with 2008.)
I thought the SDK/rSDK only compiled in VC++?
He probably used XCode as IDE and VC++ as compiler.
I'm using Visual Assist, it's a great improvement over IntelliSense and it works with older VS edition. rdPts shows up everything for me here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Looki
VC++ 2008 free version, i like it so i just code directly with it. For anything else though i will usually use Notepad++ but i sometimes use that for C++ also then just copy and paste it in.
Code::Blocks IDE seemed very good but i ended up deleting it in the end as i just need VC++ 2008 and Notepad++ really and don't need the extra things. I never tried making any extensions with it though.
Using 2010 express,
I suffer the first 30 minutes, they make good change in the project structure, but you need to adjust the template or old project to it, good thing to mention, you may define the extension (.mfx) directly, more variable to use for pre, and post build.
Cons: sometimes it becomes slow, really slow.