multi object recolor

[seann33uk]

please somebody help.
I'm trying to recolor multiple copies of the same item but i want them as different colors. However no matter what i try they all get recolored the same.
i have 3 sets of 6 items all colored white with number 255,255,255
during start of level i want to change each set to blue, red and yellow. But as soon as i select one color replacement they all become that color.

Is there any way to stop it and to all single items to be changed iwthout changing the others?

[nivram]

Maybe out each group in a qualifier and only change that qualifier group color?

Marvin

[DanielRehn]

I suppose you use multiple instances of the same active object, and they share the same images in the "image bank"...
So if you change this image all instances of this object will change...

[xyzzy]

this is a limitation in how the objects' images are stored in memory; basically, all duplicates of an object share the same set of images, because if they didn't, memory usage could go through the roof... unfortunately Replace Color literally replaces a color in the image bank (and not on the object's display surface), so if you try to change the color of one object, it'll change all of them

EDIT: beaten oops

[DanielRehn]

EDIT: beaten oops

That's a good thing Better with to many answers than the other way around

[seann33uk]

to nivram: How do you do groups in MMF2? I can't seem to find that.
to danielrehn and xyzzy: Thank you for your explanations, but i actually kind of worked that out which is why i was wondering if there was any other way to do recolors.
now theres some problems. first i said theres about 18 of these active objects; however more will be created in level when asked. second the different color sets red blue yellow can be mixed with the others, and they to them so two objects will be "mixing" multiple times, WITHOUT(if anybody can think of work around.) the rest changing color.

[xyzzy]

it'd be possible to do something like this with a shader (in HWA mode), however. unfortunately it wouldn't be as easy or flexible, because if you wanted to replace X amount of colors, you'd need 2X parameters programmed into the shader itself (one for old color, one for new color... for each color); if you wanted to replace gradients, you could get away with fewer parameters

iirc, this was a feature that another extension (sprex) would support (could be wrong), but i haven't heard anything of sprex in months (which sucks, because i can't emphasize how much i need it)

[seann33uk]

hum, thank you. its always worth thinking about. it might be the only way. but we'll see.

[Joshtek]

If you split your object into 3 with each one only containing the red, green or blue channel you can change the shade by modifying the transparency of each object. A bit of hard work, tho.

[nivram]

seann33uk, disregard what I wrote. I thought you were using individual actives.
Nivram