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    Re: VirusTotal detects MMF apps as virus

    doesn't happen here, but i think peter's computer is infected, and is infecting his exe's with a virus. I got no such issue here.

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    Re: VirusTotal detects MMF apps as virus

    Quote Originally Posted by 00J
    doesn't happen here, but i think peter's computer is infected, and is infecting his exe's with a virus. I got no such issue here.
    Very, very unlikely.

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    Re: VirusTotal detects MMF apps as virus

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter013
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    I think I am the one who caused this problem.
    I don't think it was you. At least, not just you. There have been several MMF-made malware things, it's the AV's fault for assuming everything MMF-made is malware. If we give them false-positive reports, they should sort it.
    Yes. You're right. They should fix the false positive problem.

    I will remove my prank programs on download.com, softpedia and my website. I know it won't help so much but at least this is to showing my responsibility.
    How bad was this program? I can't see anything too major being made in MMF besides it deleting some files...
    My prank program doesn't harm the computer, it just a "virus simulation". It display HDD formatting progress bar, computer beep etc. It doesn't modify nor delete any files on computer.

    Antivirus vendor flag this program in Joke category. Some antivirus are clever enough to give a name "Win32/BadJoke.Formatter" so people will think it's a real virus, which is not.

    I'm in process in removing those programs from download site. However I can't stop this program spreading around the net by the users.

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    Re: VirusTotal detects MMF apps as virus

    Quote Originally Posted by 00J
    doesn't happen here, but i think peter's computer is infected, and is infecting his exe's with a virus. I got no such issue here.
    Dude my comp is not infected.

    And I just submitted the demoapp.exe file to Symantec, DrWeb and a bunch of other companies to remove the false positive. Symantec said it would be removed from their database in the next release.

    So nobody make viruses or joke apps anymore!!

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    Re: VirusTotal detects MMF apps as virus

    My prank program doesn't harm the computer, it just a "virus simulation". It display HDD formatting progress bar, computer beep etc. It doesn't modify nor delete any files on computer.
    Anti-virus programs definitely have no sense of humour...

    Kaspersky started reporting it yesterday, they told me it would be fixed in the next update, probably today. A-squared fixed it. But I see now 1 or 2 others report it too.

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    Re: VirusTotal detects MMF apps as virus

    Correct me if im wrong, but im sure this has nothing to do with real virus, past prank virus games or anything as such, but its to do with how MMF creates and embeds data inside its exe files.

    I had the problem when i tried to distribute a nice little app on a forum to help members with a subject, they loved it untill someone came on and told everyone to delet ea its a virus and i got banned, for a while anyway, untill i proved otherwise.

    very unfortunate thing, although i now use delphi for most things, but still stop by here for a while and its a sad thing to see this is still an on going problem, a quick search should flag my old thread up.

    Andy

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    Re: VirusTotal detects MMF apps as virus

    Yes if MMF was a compiler like Delphi maybe this issue would not concern all the applications created with MMF, as each application would have a different signature.

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    Re: VirusTotal detects MMF apps as virus

    Quote Originally Posted by Yves
    Yes if MMF was a compiler like Delphi maybe this issue would not concern all the applications created with MMF, as each application would have a different signature.
    And MMF2-made applications don't have unique signatures already? Why? Can this be implemented?

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    Re: VirusTotal detects MMF apps as virus

    Antivirus signatures are normally from the actual executable code of an application. In the case of an MMF app, the only actual executable code is the MMF runtime and extensions, your events are just data. Making MMF into an actual compiler is infeasible.

    This is true even in the Java/flash runtimes, I think.

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    Re: VirusTotal detects MMF apps as virus

    Quote Originally Posted by Dynasoft
    This is true even in the Java/flash runtimes, I think.
    You are correct. The actionscript of every Flash runtime built swf is nearly identical, and if you open a jar (it's just a zip file try it for yourself) you'll see very similar files in every Java runtime compiled jar with the actual "program" just data which is interpreted by the runtimes.

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