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    Re: Questions about making a server

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ham
    It would however be nice if Jamie would be kind enough to make it possible to be able to run the server on a web hosting service and save both the PC and environment.
    That's not a question of kind - how do you propose it could possibly work, with an acceptable throughput?

    I have no idea but think it is a matter of will. One possibility is that the server application could be the integral of the two parts, one part on the clients application and the other one on the host server. Once connected, together form the server and once the server is integrated the part on the host server will not seek after the complimentary part of itself on the clients being connected until it is disintegrated with no client available.

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    Re: Questions about making a server

    Quote Originally Posted by Ham
    It would however be nice if Jamie would be kind enough to make it possible to be able to run the server on a web hosting service and save both the PC and environment.
    I agree, I think it would be nice if Jamie was a wizard.

    Yeah, it can't be done. What you are suggesting is somehow making the client be a server, and then turning the server into something that can run on an http-request-driven shared web server.
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    Re: Questions about making a server

    I am still at no position to say a word about the lacewing but I know for sure that it can be done for some other servers to be used on a hosted website just by putting its components in a folder on the hosted server.

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    Re: Questions about making a server

    Quote Originally Posted by Ham
    I am still at no position to say a word about the lacewing but I know for sure that it can be done for some other servers to be used on a hosted website just by putting its components in a folder on the hosted server.
    Basically, the webserver provided by your web host will only do one thing, and that's to receive page requests from a web browser, and respond with the page content.

    <img src="http://ledev.org/~udp/SS-2011-02-26_17.04.07.png" style="max-width: 1000px;" />

    Web applications, which are what you're talking about uploading, are just a way of dynamically generating pages. That's how, for example, this forum works :-

    &bull; Your web browser requests the URL of this forum topic
    &bull; The webserver hands it to the UBBthreads PHP script
    &bull; That script generates a page containing all the posts and gives it back to the webserver
    &bull; The webserver transmits it back to the browser

    On shared web hosting, your web host manages the webserver part of the equation. You don't have anything to do with it, and you can't swap it out for something else (eg. run your own server software).

    Lacewing doesn't use a webserver, as the Lacewing protocol consists of rapidly relaying messages between different clients in real-time. This is a very different situation to the request/response conversation between a web browser and a webserver[color:#FF0000]*[/color]

    In order to run a Lacewing server, your web host would have to allow you to run something other than the webserver (a Lacewing server), and cheap shared hosting doesn't let you do this.

    [size:8pt][color:#FF0000]*[/color] The next Lacewing protocol revision will actually include Lacewing-over-HTTP support through some AJAX long-poll trickery, but it still requires a custom server, and it's not fast enough for a game.[/size]

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    Re: Questions about making a server

    Well, I went back to the site and picked my router and I made it past the advertisement screen (there was a skip button that I didn't see). Their guide was very helpful and as far as I know it worked.

    Now, I forwarded port 80, but does it matter what port I pick? I mean, could I use 6121 instead of 80 (considering all my lacewing apps are set up for 6121)?

    Thanks for the help.

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    Re: Questions about making a server

    You should forward 6121 for Lacewing, yeah. Running Lacewing on port 80 would be a bit silly (that's the port for HTTP).

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    Re: Questions about making a server

    Thanks Jamie for your informative post.
    >>>Lacewing doesn't use a webserver, as the Lacewing protocol consists of rapidly relaying messages between different clients in real-time. <<<<
    This has convinced me. I believe the only option will be to rely on a renting a dedicated server host.
    I found some interesting readings here about running an exe file by php.
    http://se.php.net/shell_exec

    http://se2.php.net/function.exec

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