mouse toggle logic

[arfa]

I wonder what is wrong with my logic here. I thought to make the mouse pointer available to the player to activate a menu.


start = hide
not displayed + C = show
displayed + C = hide

[LB]

I made this post a while back because I saw into the future and saw your post
http://www.clickteam.com/epicenter/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=176557

[arfa]

thanks LB. I have d'loaded the various examples and will study later.

[arfa]

I have tested the examples with the mouse pointer.

Using LB's toggle.mfa --

Here is my setup using this. Unfortunately it doesn't work.
I also tried it using alt val A of an object. Doesn't work.
My suspicion (newbie that I am) is that negation of 'mouse visible' is not a reliable status indicator.

I tested this using a single line: '(negate) Mouse cursor is displayed' = create object
Blow me down if it didn't create the object on level start - with no key pressing!
I set a 'start of frame' = show pointer and the object was still created; as if the mouse was not there. Huh?

Using the 'Group Method' was easiest

It works but requires the 'start of frame' conditions.

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The 'Alterable Value Method' stumped me with: <0-Display Object( "Toggle Grey" )>
I couldn't see how 'Display Object' was added to the 'alterable value/set/choose value' list.
Educate me oh MMF whizzes.

Ditto the 'Fastloop Method'

So, I have a working solution with the group method.
Thank you all.

[LB]

A group can be disabled at start without start of frame conditions. Right click the group and choose properties, and then choose "Disabled at start".

Also, I remade the code in your screenshot and it worked perfectly. Not sure why it isn't working for you :\

[arfa]

Yes, I forgot about the group 'internal' options.

Do you still have your remake of my screenshot? Could you post it here? It would be ideal if it could use an alterable value of an (existing) object. I constantly threaten to be more organised with my objects but - sometimes the clutter is happier with one less counter.

Not sure how to link to a file on this forum....
here is the link to my screenshoted file
www.buddhamind.info/mmf/arfa_LB-Toggle.mfa
seems to work in the preview

[LB]

The problem is that "Upon pressing any key" is an immediate condition and triggers the exact moment any key is pressed, regardless of where MMF2 was reading events. It has its own order of events and is not considered in the same event list as the rest of the events. If you change it to something else that is not immediate it should work fine

[arfa]

I did change it and it didn't be fine.

I have a working solution, which is good, but it would gooder to get a better understanding of this.

I may have been a bit misleading with "seems to work in the preview." I was referring to my link - not the mfa file, which doesn't work.

[LB]

It didn't work when you changed it? Odd, I just changed both the conditions to be activated by the T key without change anything else, and it works fine: