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    Seriously need help with this

    Hi,

    I really, really need help with this and I don't mean just sending me an mfa "and off you go", I sincerely need an explanation. And yes, I've done the tutorials.

    I want to make a quiz game and I've already tried asking a bunch of people, went through the forums, tried to find tutorials, looked at quiz games other people have made. Whenever I ask a question I usually get ignored. I tried writing in forums, I tried PM-ing people, I tried leaving questions on YouTube, I don't know if my idea is stupid, if people are busy, or if they can't be bothered and by now I'm a bit frustrated.

    The only replies I've gotten so far are this:

    http://steamcommunity.com/app/248170...79439669087933

    which is happygreenfrog's application that can also be found here:

    http://community.clickteam.com/threads/72509-Quiz-game-question?p=535500&viewfull=1#post535500

    And just yesterday this:

    http://steamcommunity.com/app/248170...04254458333672

    I'm grateful for these responses, but what I honestly need is explanations on how to do these things myself. There are commands being used which I don't know where they found them, I don't understand how these apps were build and sadly, the documentation in these apps is not necessarily 100% accessible to a complete novice like myself.

    Aside from this comment in happygreenfrog's mfa,

    "On group activation:

    Set the question to be asked to a random question: Random (13)+1 tells the code to ask a random question from a choice of (12) possibles, the +1 is there so choice 0 is never asked

    The swap position is there so that each time the group is activated the images will "swap" places with each other, thus they won't always be in the same place the next time the question is asked"

    which not only explained what to do, sort of how to do it, and why you're supposed to do it, I did not know what to do or mimmick what I was seeing.

    I guess what it comes down to is: Is there any decent tutorial on how to make a multiple choice quiz game out there where the questions appear in a randomized order, I can have 9, answers A, B, C, and D are always jumbled arround, and I can have something like 15 questions per round? Or are there any tutorials out there that will teach me the skills I need to accomplish this specifically?

    I initially tried using the Quiz Object, but I couldn't individualize the Correct / False answer dialog, which I think is necessary to not only briefly say which answer is correct, but also why it's correct. I also could not figure out how to insert pictures instead of questions into the Quiz Object so as to ask players "Name that animal / building / person" or whatever.

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    the best way realy is to disect the files you have. if you think about the events logicaly they will make sence.

    the example in your steam thread by sweet autom was very detailed in the events,...
    www.gforg.co.uk/example.png

    now you replied this,..
    "Thank you, however, I've done the tutorials and I would not be asking questions if I didn't have problems.

    Basically, my initial question was very precise, I used screenshots and arrows indicating what I was talking about. The response, however, did not address these questions but instead was an mfa which did not attempt to answer the beforementioned question. Essentially, the response, for which I'm very grateful for, only brought up more confusion by not being well documented. Thank you still for trying."

    now that mfa is very detailed tells you what its doing step by step, the events are not complicated and is well documented.
    i sugest you start off with something simpler that mfa appears to do everything you wanted?

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    I respectfully disagree. A decent documentation explains what you're doing, how you're doing it, why you're doing it, and what you are attempting to accomplish. If you care to look at scientific publications as an example, they do just that. With many papers, the biggest part is explaining exactly these things so as to not only assure accountability but also allow for the experiment at hand to be repeated. And they do this, despite knowing that the only people who will read their work are as educated in this as they are themselves.

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    ok,.. well your not going to get that. as in scientific papers you are required to know a little bit about the subject and be able to think for yourself. so im going to give an example of thinking for foryelf

    i have never used the swap position thing and as such i dont know how it works

    now looking at the well documentated mfa that was given to you the picture of events is above i can see that it uses a loop to trigger the repositioning on event 7
    going across i can see that the tick is under the group buttons

    from this i can deduce that it is part of the options for that item

    now it has to do with moveing an object, but whats this. i cant find the option under movement!!!!
    but wait! there are 2 more options that have to do with movement, position and direction

    so i check the next one down position
    OMG it has a swap position with anouther object in there!!! BINGO
    i click it wooow!!!

    sorry for bieng a tad sarcastic but trying to make a point.
    here is the documentation for fastloops which i am going to assume its the bit you dont get.

    http://www.clickteam.com/creation_materials/tutorials/download/The_Clickers_Guide_To_Fastloops.pdf

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