Posts by azurie

Hello all. I have a question regarding memory usage that I think is going to turn more into a suggestion to the Clickteam Devs.

Is there any way to remove an object from memory other than restarting the frame? I've done the basic optimizations of unchecking "create at start" and checking "load on call", and this does help a TON, but for bigger projects I would love to be able to micromanage when an object is removed from memory.

If there is no way to do this currently, mayhaps a "destroy and remove from memory" action would be good. Or an object property checkbox like "remove from memory when there are no copies of object in play". These are just some thoughts; I don't know how Clickteam works behind the curtains so I'm not sure if this would even be possible.

Hello everyone! I'm in a tough spot regarding controllers. I just submitted my game to Steam and they rejected it because of the following issue:

Failure:
Your build has failed our review because the "Full Controller Support" category appears on the store page, but the game does not appear to fully support the Xbox One controller during local multiplayer.

With 4 controllers connected before launch:
Controller 1 will control player 2
Controller 2 will control player 1

With 4 controllers connected before launch:
Controller 1 will control player 4
Controller 2 will control player 2
Controller 3 will control player 1
Controller 4 will control player 3

I think what they're referring to is that the player light indicator on the xbox controller can mismatch what "player" you are in the game. I knew that this would happen occasionally, but it really has no impact on the game so I just kind of let it slide. Seems I can't do that anymore.

I'm using Joystick 2 object and I know that comes with a level of jank, but I have my events set up in a way where that can be swapped out pretty easily if need be (though I'd hate to lose my rumble settings). I'm pretty confident this is an issue occurring on the clickteam side of things rather than faulty events. Has anyone dealt with this before? Any suggestions would be great.

Sorry all, I've figured it out. It's been moved to the windows tab under Properties.

Hi again, I've encountered what I think might be a big issue. The game I'm working on i carried over from mmf 2.0 last year. In that file I (for whatever reason) had .ogg files unselected in the Sound Filters section. Here's an image for reference.

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So fast forward a year and I've replaced a bulk of my audio files with .ogg files. This has cut down on a lot of space. Everything was great! Until I built an executable. None of the .ogg files will play, and I believe it's because I had the .ogg files unselected in the old Sound Filters section in mmf 2.0.

My question is, is there a way to access the Sound Filters section in 2.5? It's certainly not in the same place as 2.0. I really hope somebody can help with this. This would be a really big hit to not be able to use .ogg files.

Thanks a lot! I'll have to go through and see if turning "Play sounds over frames" off will have an impact on anything.

I'm not really having frame drops or anything, just doing what I can. X)

Hello all. I have a question about Load on Call in the Data Elements menu. I understand that Load on Call for an object means it will not be loaded into memory until it is created during a frame. Then when you exit the frame it will be released from memory.

Is this the same for Load on Call for Data Elements? For example, if I play a song during a frame and it is loaded into memory, will it un-load from memory once the frame ends? I've got a ton of sounds in my game and I'm trying to optimize. If anyone has any knowledge on this, it would be very helpful. Thanks!

That alt value thing is what I ended up doing and it works. Thanks!

As for determining the order of object event resolution, I think you can see the order they resolve in by hitting the "import object" button in the event editor. The way that lists objects seems to be in line with the order that objects resolve their events

Surprisingly, this doesn't affect the order that object events resolve in. For example, say object 1 has a behavior and object 2 has a behavior. No matter how you order them, it seems the behavior for object 1 will happen first when events are being cycled through.

That said, I found an alternate solution to my problem so I'm good in that regard. But I'd still be curious to know if there is a way to reorder the way object events resolve.

Hi all. I'm having a bit of trouble with object events. I assumed the events would resolve in order from top to bottom of the workspace toolbar. But as far as I can tell, object events actually resolve in the order that the objects were created. Does anyone know if there is a way to change this order?

Hey ya'll. I figured out what was causing the extreme frame rate drop. Figure I'd share in case anyone else runs into this issue.

Simply, it was because I was using the joypad object. I can't say if it was because it was conflicting with something else, but I swapped out the the joypad object for the joystick 2 object and everything was fine.

Thank you. Much appreciated. I'll disable the compression as well. The stdrt.exe thing really drives me crazy so it's good to hear there's a way avoid that.

If you have "Compress the runtime" checked, you can try to build the exe without that checked. An app I was building was showing up in all my friends' emails as a virus until I unchecked that.

To create more global variables click on the application in the Workspace Toolbar, and in the Properties box, go to the Values tab. Press new to add more Global Values. You can double-click on the names of the values to rename them.

Hey ya'll. I don't have a lot of technical know-how, so my question might seem pretty simple. About the Compression Level, Compress Sounds, and Compress Runtime options... do they in any way affect the speed and performance of games, or just the filesize? I guess to simplify the question, is there any disadvantage to checking these options?

Bonus question: Does Enable Visual Themes affect performance?

It's a built exe that I'm testing with so its not the debugger. And I recently switched to direct3d and that has helped general performance but not the ridiculous frame rate drop. However, I do use controller polling quite frequently, so per Pisces' suggestion, I'll try turning that off to see if it helps.

What's weird is that when it's running at 4 FPS, it's at all times. And when it's running perfectly, it's at all times. It is a fairly intensive game in term of graphics and amount of events, but I've also tested other small games and gotten similar results.

It really does feel like a machine-specific issue; that just makes me wonder why I could run Five Nights just fine when it's also a fusion game.

I'm pretty close to finishing up a game for Windows, and it runs well on my PC and a handful of other computers I've tested on.

My laptop, on the other hand, is a different story. Occasionally when i run it on my laptop it runs perfectly, at full framerate. Other times it has small hiccups that are on a 2 second interval. And then sometimes the framerate runs at 4 (yes, that low). There's also been a couple other computers that have had some wonky framerates, but since I don't have access to those all the time i'll stick to focusing on my laptop for now.

I've actually created some other apps that are significantly smaller and they also have unpredictable framerates on my laptop. This led me to believe that my laptop was the problem or maybe something running in the background was conflicting with my games. So I downloaded a Five Nights at Freddy Demo since it was created in Fusion, assuming that it should suffer the same issues as my games. But alas, Five Nights ran flawlessly.

So now... I'm lost. I've been scouring the forums for different things that might drastically effect performance. I've tested different variations of my game with different options ticked and unticked. I've tested without sound and even different games with barely any events. But no matter what I do, my games have a chance to drop to a framerate of 4 on my laptop. What could I possibly be doing different from a game like Five Nights? Is there something huge I'm missing in the options?

Has anyone else experienced anything like this? Anyone have anything that I can try?

In my personal experience it's probably better to avoid transitions altogether and go with piscesdreams' suggestion. Transitions in general can cause some wonky effects, especially if your game gets bigger and bigger.

Ah, sorry to revive this thread, but I figured I'd ease some minds in case anyone was worried. lol. I tried Darkhog's suggestion by trying to space in notepad while holding 2 arrows. The spacebar did not register, so yeah... it's my hardware.

I may just add custom button mapping so people can set it to spacebar if it works for them.

Thank you for the reply. This definitely sounds like the issue. Welp, back to the drawing board on control scheme.