Posts by Algul

This topic may be too premature, but recent thread about MMF3 spiked my interest in MMF3 development. Will there be option to sign-up for beta testing it during development? Will there be some beta extension SDK? And if so, what will be requirements to get in for beta testing?

And sorry if this topic was already discussed somewhere else, it just poped in my head.

Just out of curiosity, how does object selection works in Edif? If is declare condition in json with parameter "Object" how do I have to declare function in Edif? From experience in rSDK param object should be short and the number should be index of OI in OIL. But if I declare function in Edif to take param short or int, I don't get the same number as I get in rSDK(I tested).

I agree that it would be better to do actions on all object right away, and I agree that it's design flaw, but I do not think it's a bug. There are other design flaws in MMF that does not make sense and all of them are so deep in the code that fixing them would be near impossible. All we can do now is accept how it works and deal with. Hopefully all those quirks will be fixed in MMF3.

But what surprise me that it looks like many people think it's something new, mmf worked this way as long as I have it. So conclusion is that I don't defend this behavior as the correct one but just saying that it's not a bug.

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It's not logic. It's a design flaw. No other development platform would do this. If you iterate through objects, it's not pushed later in some queue. Seriously, have you programmed in any other environment that does this? I sure haven't.

edit: misread that, sry

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Hm, Francois this problem is the way MMF works too? Could you tell me workaround?

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workaround, don't start fast loop in events that do something for multiple objects(positioning, setting values,...), triggered event will mess up selection list

it does follow order of actions, it goes from top to bottom doing one object at a time, first time it will do all 3 action, second time it will do only actions for active because there are more then one, global object is one

sry but that's not a bug. Come on, action loops in MMF are unchanged as long as I know. Disasembly of that example looks like this:
set global value to 10
set active1 altvalueA to globalvalue(10)
add 50 to global value
set active2 altvalueA to globalvalue(60)
set active3 altvalueA to globalvalue(60)

Well I have been quite busy in the past few weeks and Skyrim does not help(and it will probably take me a month to finish it). I don't want to postpone release of the updated version that long so here is new early beta version. Unfortunately I was unable to fix OBJ loader for this version but I will get back to it.

changes:

DebugDraw:
extension no longer mess up texturing for other extensions
added some more debugdraw options

Bullet:
several bug fixes
added low level access to persistent manifold
completed raycasting
lots of new actions/conditions/expressions and fixes to existing
constraints are now at about 75% completion

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ps: can any moderator change link in the first post please?

I'm not sure what are you trying to do but to round value up or down to the closest desirable value -> something like this should work: round(x"detector"+12.5)/25*25

Like this?

Under application properties look at "Image Filters" and uncheck "automatic". That should do the trick.

Well I played with it a little, hope it's what you are looking for.

It should just drop concave mesh on the ground. So as long as it falls down and roll as expected and does not crash then it's working ok. Problem is that it crash for me in the new version and I was not sure if it's something new or if it crash for someone else in earlier version too. And even bigger issue is that I have no idea why it's crashing because it's reporting KERNELBASE.dll as fault module and only in release version. Debug version works without problems.
So if I don't find solution I will have to find different OBJ loader or write my own. And that's pita.

I didn't examine that file to much but I think that the problem is as follow

OR (Filtered)
+ Repeat While Moving Right
+ CeilingDetector is overlapping Obstacle <-A
+ FloorDetector is overlapping Obstacle <-B
+ Alterable Value A = 0 (Probably not relevant, but it is 0)

A = Condition A will select only those obstacle that overlap UpDetector
B = Floordetector will never overlap obstacles that are selected by previous condition = condition will not be true

you should have different events for overlaps of up and down detector and then store overlap as value
then you should be able to compare to both values

edit: I was unsuccessful trying to upload the file on forum so here on MFArepository Please login to see this link.

So next version is almost ready for release, but I would like some feedback on current version. Specifically: does example 02-GImp work for everyone?

So what you want is to project MousePoint onto Line? Like this? Please login to see this link.
That example is simplified but you can google proper math to do this with keyword dotproduct. I'm not confident enough to try to explain it myself, but vector math in 2D is pretty simple really.

edit: almost at the same time

Actually the "Correct way" is incorrect. Compare 2 general values condition does not change object selection so you may as well replace it with "always" condition. The fact that it will position hitboxes on characters is inbuilt feature of action loops in MMF.
Condition "Create new event > right click on object > Alterable Values > Compare to one of the alterable values" will select only those object that fulfill that condition and if you comparing altvalue to value of different object then you will be comparing ALL OBJA.altval with ONE OBJB.altval => in case of comparing ID it will usually select only ONE OBJA and ALL OBJB(actually it will not change selection of OBJB=>no selection=all selected) => all hitboxes will be positioned on one character.

Are there any news about issue with PS_3 not working? I just tested some of my old ps3 shaders and none of them are working:(

ops never mind, wrong idea.

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I'm pretty sure it's the same issue, links for example file does not seem to be working tho.

YAY!, big thanks for ability to edit old posts.