Bugs & Observations

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Ok... here is a list of bugs (sorry if disrespectful) and observations i have found - i thought it better to put them in 1 thread than a couple of hundered.

(windows 98, mmf2 standard, R241, DSL cable connection)

1) Tree Control Setup (double click) crashes on putting folder in itself, deleting any of the first 3 images.

2) Parent applications fail to set global values of subapplications when applications are set (in properties) to different global values.

3) Some of my applications seem to be registered as viruses by the virus warning popup thingy when tested on xp. Applications included the "file" object and a command to insert a file in the windows dir... (less of a risk than notepad <img src="/center/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> )

4) Hosting MOO seems to be something my computer can't do:
Mooclick: Host on port 1024
Firewall: Allow edrt/stdrt to host on 1024?
Me: yes...
Mmf2: Select server 0
Mmf2: Set global string A to serverIP (or whatever)
Global string A: "0.0.0.0"

5) Picture object crashes when loading file (edittime)

6) small thing. if you create an alpha channel on a picture in a system box then all the objects you create in edittime afterwards have pinky (mabye inverted) icons.

7) Probably unmendable. Mmf2 sometimes crashes for no reason when i try and select an item from the "file" menu. (window title flickers as if looping)

8) When i installed mmf2 i set the location to "F:\mmf2\" instead of "F:\mmf2". As a result, the registry value was set as "F:\mmf2\\" so it wouldn't load. Any way to remove last slash?

Observations:

1) Is there any way to change each pane seperately in the split screen option? (topmenu: window &gt; split)

2) Application objects have a "set direction" action but not a "retrive direction"

3) You can turn the system menu at a right angle <img src="/center/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

4) Why are toolbar options disabled in the action editor (double click action) ?

5) topmenu &gt; window &gt; arrange icons ??

6) On my xp laptop, a blank 1600X1800 file takes up 7000kb! of memory whilst on my 98 it only takes up 100 or so. Why is this and which one is what you would expect?

7) (already been discussed somewhere) Tray Object icon funny

8) Why can you load mmf1 extensions into edittime but not runtime?

+ I took so long to write this that it deleted the form <img src="/center/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

... Sorry i didn't write a list of compliments. But then a again it would probably be to big to fit on the forum <img src="/center/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

[Joshtek]

[]3) Some of my applications seem to be registered as viruses by the virus warning popup thingy when tested on xp[/]
If you know of specific examples where the latest definitions give a false-positive then please post about them and inform the virus company of their error.
[]8) Why can you load mmf1 extensions into edittime but not runtime?[/]
The difference between the MMF 1.5 and MMF2 runtime is too great. However, the MMF2 edit-time is backward compatible, as MMF2 allows for additional features while still supporting old ones.
[]4) Why are toolbar options disabled in the action editor (double click action) ?[/]
...?

Generally speaking if you want a bug fixing, you should provide an MFA which clearly demonstrates this bug.

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[Yves]

1. It's fixed in the build 242.

2. Global values: I'm not sure to see what you mean, could you send me an example?

3. What anti-virus program do you use?

5 &amp; 7. Probably specific to Windows 9x, I'll test that.

Observations:

1. If you mean "changing the frame", i.e. having frame 1 in left pane and frame 2 in right pane, the answer is no.

4. I think otherwise this would cause conflicts with the event editor.

5. Standard MDI option, to arrange the icons when the editors are minimized.

6. That depends on the screen resolution. If Windows is in 256 colors, your application will use 4 times less memory than if it's in true color 32-bits.

8. Because the runtime of MMF1 uses different internal structures and most of the MMF1 extensions would corrupt memory or crash the runtime.

Yves.

[Cocodrilo]

4)?
What do you mean?

Server:
Host Server on Port 1203 (or whathever)

Client:
Set name to: "test" (not neccessary i think... but could be good to have before connecting)
Connect to: "localhost" on port 1203 <img src="/center/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />


-On connect:
Sign on channel "TEST"
Set string to "connected" <img src="/center/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

[raytrace]

wow, your good. This is the only forum in which the admins actually reply within one month. Thanks <img src="/center/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/center/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/center/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

1) <img src="/center/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
2)attached if i knew how
3)connecting to myself doesn't work unless i use port 80 (msn port <img src="/center/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />)
4)zonealarm (we get 10000 attempts of infiltration the computer after 1 day of connection)
obs:
1) &amp; also different editors e.g. Frame,Storyboard,Event
6) window size has no effect on the memory in 98. 32bit True in each case
5,7&amp;8) thanks <img src="/center/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

[Jeff]

You can put the file in the file archive on the forum or check Yves account here on the forums for his email address.

[raytrace]

Thanks <img src="/center/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> - ill send it

[Yves]

About the problem with the global values, it happens because you set the global value in a Start of frame condition in the parent application, and want to retrieve it in a Start of Frame condition in the sub-application.

Problem: as the sub-app object is created before the parent frame is executed, the Start of Frame condition of the sub-application is executed before the Start of Frame condition of the parent frame.

I don't think we could change that.

Solution: for example use another global value as a "flag", set it to 1 in the parent frame and replace the Start of Frame condition in the subapp by "If Global Value X &lt;&gt; 0 / place_here_your_initialization".

Yves.

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Thanks <img src="/center/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

It seemed that it wasnt the global value stuff that wasn't working.