Why so heavy, these exe?

[Dynasoft]

The biggest problem before was that when installing two MMF (1.5) applications that used different versions of the dll, they could overwrite each other and cause problems.

MMF2 includes everything needed in the exe, so there will never be problems from having two MMF2 apps installed. The downside is that the exe is bigger than before.

[Joshtek]

KNP = 204.3 KB (41.5 KB for executable; 28.7 KB for GAM file; 52.5 KB for knpg.dll; 81.6 KB for KNPS.DLL)
TGF Pro = 393.5 KB (176 KB for executable; 48.5 KB for GAM file; 169 KB for cncs32.dll)
MMF 1.2 = 557KB (278 KB for executable/application; 279 KB for cncs232.dll)
MMF 1.5 Pro = 589KB (310 KB for executable/application; 279 KB for cncs232.dll)

[Quinto]

In floppy disk times this has did matter, but now
we live in the very cool size-doesnt-matter-time.
dont worry about kilobytes when you can put
it on a 700mb cd rom.
(Not to forget the minimum 1gb ram standard computers now should have.
And there is no 640kb-memory-limit anymore.)

[BrandonC]

300kb for almost everyone the internet these days, downloads in less then a second. It's nothing to be worried about.

[Joshtek]

VB6 runtime = 1020 KB
Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable Package (x86) = 2662 KB (2.6 MB)
Microsoft .NET Framework Version 2.0 Redistributable Package (x86) = 22938 KB (22.4 MB)

[Dynasoft]

Ah, but I believe that either the MMF2 runtime or extensions require one of the C++ runtimes. Normally v6 (included in all Windows since '98), but some need newer

EDIT: Yeah, the .exe's produced by MMF2 need MSVCRT.dll, aka the Visual C++ 6 runtime.

[Francois]

No, MMF runtime does not require anything. A few MFC extension might require the MFC dll though.
391Kb is actually VERY small when you compare to everything else.

[Random]

You can use vitalize - Noone can beat that:

Empty application: 1,78 KB

Once the runtime package of 2.3 MB is installed, you can hand out your application in TINY sizes..

[Yves]

Dynasoft is right, the MMF2 runtime requires MSVCRT.DLL, included with Windows since Windows 98, but all the Windows 95 users should have it as almost all the applications need it.

The Clickteam extensions and current bonus pack extensions don't need any other DLL.

A few 3rd party extensions developped with VC6 may also require msvcp60.dll, if they are not statically linked with the static version of the C++ runtime. This DLL is not installed by default on Windows, so it might be a problem even if almost everyone has it nowadays. If anyone experiences this issue, you can install the VC6 runtime DLLs from microsoft.com.

Also 3rd party extensions developped with VC2005 or above might require msvcp71.dll if they aren't linked with the static version of C++ runtime. This DLL is not installed by default even on XP, this is a bigger problem because not everyone has it. If you experience this issue you can install the VC200X runtime DLL from microsoft.com too.

@ extension developers : if you use C++ objects from the C++ runtime library like vector, iterator, string, etc. then load your extension with the MS Dependency Viewer tool provided with VC to see if it requires the DLLs above. If so, you should link your extension with the static version of the C++ runtime library. If you only use simple functions from the C++ runtime library, like strcpy, memcmp, malloc, etc, then you can link with the dynamic library.

[DJFuego]

Don't forget that a .Net application has to have the .Net runtime loaded...That's like 80 meg.
I think you get a better deal with MMF2