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    I never used never xD

    I am just curious. For what is 'never' condition??? Does anyone of you used it at least one time? xD
    In manual I found this:
    "Never inserts a blank event line in the Event editor of your application. All of the actions inserted on this line will never happen during application runtime."
    So I tried to make simple application:
    1. Never - create object ("Active") at 320,240
    2. User clicks with left button - create object ("Active") at 320,240

    And when I click the left button, object is created xD
    So what does this condition do???

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    Re: I never used never xD

    It just negates the one event, not everything that happens in other events. I use it to temporarily disable events when I try out my engine.

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    Re: I never used never xD

    Let's say you have a complicated condition and lots of actions with it.
    Now you're trying something and you don't want that event to happen anymore, but you also don't want to throw it away.
    Then you just add a never to it.

    And when you want to enable the event again you remove the never.
    I use tons of nevers.

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    Re: I never used never xD

    So it's used only at edit time, yes?

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    Re: I never used never xD

    Never is only useful when developing the program or game, but finished games and applications don't use it. (Well, they shouldn't)

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    Re: I never used never xD

    Well I use never sometimes when I'm debugging the application.

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    Re: I never used never xD

    I find that there are a lot of "duplicate" options in MMF.
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    Never: you could just use "0=1" which never happens, "Never" can simply be removed from MMF.
    Always: "0=0", "Always" can be removed.
    Compare global value: Can just "compare two general values".

    There are loads of places where "compare two general values" can be used instead of another MMF event. Why did Clickteam decide to put all these pointless events in? All it does is make the program more complex than needed.

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    Re: I never used never xD

    0=1 - programmer speak, ain't it. Not very user friendly for those who spend all their time making beautiful animated creatures or glorious arty backgrounds for their portfolios.

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    Re: I never used never xD

    Ah, i guess so!

    But the real one that bugs me is "Compare global value", "Compare global string"... followed by "Compare value" in the special object. That does just seem a little overboard considering the bottom option can do the top three. It really does over-complicate things for new people i feel. I'd be a bit scared off from an object with so many options.

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    Re: I never used never xD

    'Compare global value' does do exactly what it says on the tin, though. Very handy for beginners. By the time you get around to needing 'Compare two general values', you're well beyond beginner.

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