Conveting mfa. files to swf. files.

[Looki]

Um, there are documentations about the format. You can easily recreate stuff like quick backdrops uisng tiles, and what's the point of saying that MMF is raster and flash vector? Flash uses shapes, but you could just a rectangle with a texture for "sprites". Plus, there are many tools like Adobe Flash CS3, e.g. Swishmax. And I think it's possible to read MFA's on your own aswell.

[ryguy]

One of the main reasons why swf files are easily decompiled is because of the open support for the swf format. There are many tools that can generate a SWF file, one example is SWF to XAML Converter

Adobe is all about open source, especially since the release of the Flex Framework.

[SEELE]

The adobe website does say that SWF is a closed format.

also using raster graphics in a vector format means removing any usefulness which comes with it.

I don't doubt that there are programs which CAN! open / generate swf files but were talking about a program which removes the necessity to ever purchase flash you can be sure there is a few pages in there intellectual protection devoted completely to this.

And the stupidest thing about this whole idea is the date '2017'???

Do you actually intend us to believe that a company such as clickteam has said that they plan to release an update in NINE YEARS! for a package (mmf2) which by that time will be dead and forgotten (and mmf3 will be on it's way out) which allows said dead package to illegally export in a file format which is read by another program which by that time will also be dead, or at least operate completely different?

[James]

I don't doubt that there are programs which CAN! open / generate swf files but were talking about a program which removes the necessity to ever purchase flash you can be sure there is a few pages in there intellectual protection devoted completely to this.

Really?

[MechatheSlag]

And the stupidest thing about this whole idea is the date '2017'???

The date was a joke on how Clickteam said they'd release a new HWA beta in a week and ends up releasing it almost a year after.

But yeah Clickteam did announce the possibility of exporting to Flash.

[Raylax]

Converting files isn't illegal and never has been illegal. If it were, then please answer the following for me:

How does OpenOffice save in Microsoft Office formats, when that would be "illegal"? (it is technically converting from OO's native format to Office's)

How does <insert name of any of the billions of freeware media converters> convert music files from, say, MIDI to MP3? Again, that would also class as "illegal" on your rules.

And here's a good one: How does Clickteam allow programs to be saved as Java applications, when those kind of copyrights are owned by (iirc) Sun Microsystems?

[ryguy]

Here's another list of projects, some are alternative IDEs that compile swf files: http://osflash.org/projects.

also using raster graphics in a vector format means removing any usefulness which comes with it

Not entirely. I wouldn't consider swf a vector only format. A Swf doesn't need to have any vector elements, you can use the bitmap class to create bitmaps on the fly or import a bunch yourself.

The Flash format has no notion of animation other than transformation matrices. Apply a matrix to an element on a per frame basis to move it around. It's not some top secret format that no one knows about, there is solid support for the format in general. There are also 3rd party Flash file format SDKs which you can acquire by license or build your own.

Back to the original topic. I'm sure it's possible for MMF to one day be able to export a SWF, even if that means zero support for vector graphics. No doubt a challenge but possible.