[Request] Mouse Gesture

[Atom]

Well not really a request but a good idea for a object. I was thinking since MMF java is being made and there will be phone stuff it might be good to have a Mouse Gestures object. They also have addons for firefox etc now using these and there is probably opensource code available somewhere. I have a nintendo DS and they use this type of system a lot and it shows it works well for games.

Basically what it does is recognize shapes and certain movements made by the mouse and then links it to commands. Better explanations -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouse_gesture

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-Touch

Hopefully this is a good idea for a object others will want also.

[Fanotherpg]

It's great idea worth of looking for. I was trying to do it by using hidden AO's and checking their values with positions but it wasn't too effective.

[Atom]

Yeah i could make my own system in MMF but it wouldn't be efficiant, maybe buggy and complex to setup. A extension would be much better and would make it a simple task though, it could be usable for all sorts of stuff.

[Nifflas]

I'm personally not sure this is needed in form of an extension. I mean, this is really something that could be done with just a few events, even nicely integrated into a resource efficient widget that you can just put into your application like if it was an extension. Multi-touch would be awesome though!

If it would be buggy and complex for you to set up, I think you need to practice to organize your code a bit. This is really not an advanced feature.

[Pkeod]

As Nifflas said, this isn't an advanced feature to implement, and is easy to create with a little trickery. I made a simple example on how to do mouse gestures a while ago:

http://www.clickteam.com/epicenter/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=12959&Number=9139 6#Post91396

Middle-click to begin a gesture. Do up Up Down Left Right to close the application. You can make your own custom gestures (even supporting things like up+right) with this code and a little customization.

[Atom]

Well a extension would be much better than a widget. It could also have much nicer options and would be more efficiant if you actually wanted a decent mouse gestures setup. Nifflas your probably thinking of a basic gesture system and in that case then yeah you can do it now easily enough. Just because something is possible to make in MMF already it doesn't mean it wouldn't be a good extension. In fact a lot of some current objects features could be done in MMF, it doesn't mean they are not useful to have though.

I could make a system like the one posted but it's far from advanced and probably wouldn't be smooth/perfect to use. When i say would be buggy and complex, it is because i would want better/smooth detections and also stored shapes arrays, distances per direction and timing etc and various other features. You could do this now but then it gets more complex with the setup the better you make it.

Im not saying your example is bad by the way just a dedicated extension would be much better to have and also easy to setup and modify things at runtime in the events editor.

[Nifflas]

Afaik mouse gestures that normal software use isn't that advanced. I mean, either you set up a detection system that triggers when the mouse have moved a distance, and for greater accuracy you can get the delta out of the mouse movement to involve speed in the process, so that you can reset the trigger distance when the mouse moves slowly. Shape recognizion is just a matter of a sequence string, like D,U,R,L,LU that is easily parsed.

What I describe above is how a normal mouse gesture system work, it's really not more advanced than this. Sure, you can pay somebody to create some superduper abstract modular extension if you want some alternative just for the sake of "It can't be simple", but mouse gestures in software I use have been more basic and straightforward than you describe now - and that have been the most functional alternative.

Things doesn't get buggy, complex, and resource demanding if the right person does it. To me, even a widget that takes all the things you mention into account sounds easy enough and it would barely eat CPU and I bet users like Nick, Daniel Rehn, or Werblad would get it done in no time. Then of course, if somebody actually wants to create an extension for this I guess it could be useful.

[Atom]

To be honest im not sure why your posting in this thread. I mean basically it's clear your not interested in having this object.

In fact i constantly see you say you don't want objects and new features on the forum. So why you feel the need to say the idea is pointless im not sure, since MMF is based around a 3rd party object system then objects are going to be added anyway. If your not interested in some or want to make a system for yourself with your amazing skills or whatever then go for it. This is really just a idea for a object that would be good to have and is not currently available as a object so if you wouldn't use it then you wouldn't have to.

[Fanotherpg]

Atom, he has got a right to state his opinion so he's doing it when he thinks that it is worth of his time.

Nifflas I understand your point of view but look at it from second side. We've got such objects like Easy Detector or even Drag object... What for? It's also just few clicks, few events, but it's in because someone needed it.

And yes you're right most of the app gestures are easy ones, but think about more comlex stuff beginning from perfect circles to shapes from several easier ones. For what it could be done? For example click Black & White. That's all.

[Atom]

Yes i agree and i apologize as reading that post above again it sounds different to how i meant to say that. The original reply Nifflas posted seemed slightly negative towards me so i over reacted a bit and also want to defend the idea as it would make a good object. Theres many object ideas posted i don't need but if someone would find them helpful then i wouldn't mind if they are added plus objects are optional always. Again this is just a idea so i don't expect it to be made although if it does get made then that would be great.

In my opinion it would be a useful object and i thought it would be a good idea as im sure some other would also. As well as what i said before it also simplifys events a lot yet you can have more complex shapes and gesture events as Fanotherpg says.