[Request]Subapp "Compare to Fixed value" Condition

[netninja]

Subapps are limited at the moment because there is no way to identify one from the other by any form of ID (as far as I know.)

Subapps do not have alterable values, so it is not possible to loop through all of them. They have fixed IDs but they are not functional because they can only be retrieved as an expression through "Compare two general values" which means that it does not work the same way as an "internal" condition "Fixed value = " which would check each object seperately.

If you have multiple instances of the same subapp it is currently very difficult to differentiate between them without using some shared value hackery. It is impossible to loop through them from a parent frame without having to push values to each subapp and getting it to perform actions on its own frame.

I am requesting for:
1. A "Compare to Fixed value" condition (identical to actives)
2. Alterable values (again identical to actives, so that we can loop through subapps)

Thank you for your time

[Nobuyuki]

Specifically, using "Compare two general values" does not perform a "for each" style check on subapp objects to perform individual actions to further limit an event to a single subapp amongst multiple instances. Instead, it appears to only check the last instance where such a "focusing" event was requested based on the condition.

For example, "Mouse is over object" will cause the next conditions to "focus" on the proper subapp object, but "Compare two general values" based on Fixed Value (or any localized subapp global value) will not. OP is requesting an event "Compare to Fixed Value" which can "focus" amongst multiple instances for the purposes of selection or fast loop iteration to operate on multiple instances of the same subapp object.


Edit: The current workaround for this is somewhat difficult and cumbersome (although it is made easier by use of either a global Array or global ini++). Each child app must "push" their values back to the main parent, which performs an event on all subapps indiscriminately. In order to differenciate the child subapp's behavior, an index must be created and all data necessary must also first be pushed to the subapps for the child subapps to process individually. View example MFA


I'd also tack onto this request a possible future feature to access the "local" alterable values from within a frame similar to how current local and global variable extensions work integrated into subapps so that dealing with this problem is more streamlined and less convoluted. (This same issue most likely already hinders full utilization of the MDI functionality...)


Edit2: The purpose of the example MFA is to demonstrate how to keep a subapp of a certain index set to mouseX while others are created at runtime. In theory, it can be extended to change which subapp moves with the mouse without relying on an active selection event such as the ones I explained above. It would involve sending an "active index" value to all subapps, then changing the event within the subapp to check and see if it is the particular object that needs to push back an update.

[Stephen]

You can identify subapps by name, id and more, by using the Kernel Object by Sphax, if you have Developer.

stephen1980

[netninja]

stephen1980 - thanks for the input but the Kernal Object will not help in this situation. It allows you to get an ID from a window but it does not allow you to choose an object based on its ID.

There is still no no condition that will allow you to pick a subapp instance even if you know its ID. That is the problem I am requesting a fix to.

[netninja]

On a related note I found a graphical glitch with subapps. If you have multiple instances they will "smear" when you move one over the top of the other:

http://mfa.aquadasoft.com/view/1258614694-Subapp_Smear

If you redraw the frame constantly by using the Fastloop 1.5 object then they will stop smearing but the windows will flash when they overlap.

[Nobuyuki]

this condition occurs with the subapp and any other surface, including windows controls. Had the same problem with Subapps and scrollbar object

[Pkeod]

Bump for great justice.

[Gustav]

On a related note I found a graphical glitch with subapps. If you have multiple instances they will "smear" when you move one over the top of the other:

http://mfa.aquadasoft.com/view/1258614694-Subapp_Smear

If you redraw the frame constantly by using the Fastloop 1.5 object then they will stop smearing but the windows will flash when they overlap.

Check the option Clip Siblings of the Sub-Application to prevent this.

[netninja]

Thanks Gustav! I thought I had to tick "pop up window" aswell to fix that. It seemed to fixed the smearing problem

Now I just hope we can get some way of ID'ing subapps.