MMF developed flash games on popular portal sites?

[Tatsu]

The idea of compiling to Flash using MMF is very appealing. After spending some time poking around this forum, I'm having a hard time finding a detailed description of what we can and cannot do with the resulting swf.

I'm simply not interested in mochimedia, and would ideally like the option to have a game hosted on one of those sites you hear about all the time (kongregate, newgrounds, etc). I admit that I know little about the swf format or the types of wrappers that these portal sites require, so I figure I'll ask these questions:

1) What exactly is an MMF swf missing that might prevent a regular flash portal from accepting the game?

2) Will there be any development to better accommodate this?

Thanks much.

[MJK]

There are probably already dozens of MMF2 games on both Newgrounds and Kongregate. Both sites will accept all submitted MMF2 flash games (as long as they don't contain any prohibited material).

What's keeping MMF2 flash games out of e.g. MindJolt and some other big portals is the fact that those sites require their own high score API integration which is currently impossible for MMF2 users to implement. If I'm correct there is an extension in the works that would allow this in the future, though.

[Ryan]

1) Nothing, your game will be accepted by new grounds, kongregate and more with no built in ads. Kongregate provide their own ad wrapping when you upload the game, and provide you with a percentage of profits from the ads.

Newgrounds will accept your game with or without advertising, if you want to make money from ads on newgrounds, you'd have to implement some kind of ads be it mochimedia or a similar service. Newgrounds just hosts the games, it doesn't provide developers with any sort of payment based on plays/impressions.

2) The only thing that is perhaps missing from not using mochimedia is the built in encryption that comes with using mochimedia live updates. Without any encryption in your flash file, anyone can decompile it, get the .mfa and open it in MMF2. This means potentially people could steal your code or change your game for their own benefit.

Another benefit of mochimedia is that (with your permission) they distribute your game to a large number of portals that you've probably never heard of. This means more exposure for your game and more impressions for your ads.

[Looki]

Without any encryption in your flash file, anyone can decompile it, get the .mfa and open it in MMF2

I'd like to see you try and get an .mfa from MMF bytecode

[Tatsu]

Ah, thank you for the answers. This is very good to hear.

Can anyone point me to some MMF flash games that are currently on Kongregate? I'd love to see the most polished & popular ones we've got so far.

[DavidN]

I don't have one on Kongregate yet, but I have four on one of the other sites you mentioned in the first post, Newgrounds:

http://davidxn.newgrounds.com/

[DavidN]

Noughts and Crosses Extreme, by Achronism Studios (Ryan on this forum) is on Kongregate, and is one of the most polished puzzle games I've seen in it: http://www.kongregate.com/games/achronism/noughts-and-crosses-extreme

[Tatsu]

Thanks DavidN, those example projects are helpful. I'm pretty confident now that I can make something fun. Between the games that exist so far and the proof of ongoing development, it looks like I'm sold on the SWF exporter.

We should have a sticky with links to our community's games on popular flash sites and success stories. That would be a huge encouragement to newcomers.

[Eliyahu]

There are so many though...... I have 9 games so far on NewGrounds, distributed with Mochi. 1 got featured on a popular Polish site, and my latest game is featured on a Spanish site (with an Alexa rank of 20,892, which is pretty good) so I'm getting like 1.5-2k impressions a day.

I think a while ago I suggested a "Success Stories" thread, the problem is you need rules, so instead of discussions, you have useful documentation and stories that are easy to find.
What I mean is not having to filter through a few pages of discussion to find the actual content.

I strongly suggest a mod or admin start this up, I think itd be nice to see how people are doing, and it'd definitely look good to people interested in buying the SWF Exporter.