the swf true story

[RhysD]

it may be free to develop using those programs but as the marketing pitch also states "To not have to learn the ActionScript programming language."

so, if you want to develop flash games for free using flash dev etc using actionscript, go ahead

[NeoMonkey]

imothep85 = Noob

Now the problem seems to be the fact that you have application, which is great and you want to make money. Now you get client and then you go and buy with the money you get a swf exporter. You don't go into forum to see what it is capable of or anything you just buy it and then start crying because extensions are not ported.

So now what you should have done. First get swf exporter and see what it is capable of. After that you would get the client when you are 100% sure that it is possible to do! Or if client comes to say: "Would you do?", then you say: "I'll see what I can do." Now you start asking before buying or buying the soft, so you will be sure that it is possible!

Your stupidity is not CT's or extension developers fault, it is your own fault! Now if you see extension which you need. You send a friendly e-mail to the creator and ask if it would be possible to be ported! Not to come whine into the forums, but it seems it is already too late to ask kindly and even make the application to your client in time. So I say: With double facepalm: "You FAIL."

Like this guy with the finnish style
http://sieni.us/?id=29

[Looki]

I'd also like to point out that you are using my Surface object. It is not an official extension and it was never promoted by Clickteam as part of the Flash Exporter. I ported parts of it to Flash in my free time and no one has ever claimed that it works just as good as in EXE applications.

StephenL has recently discovered that Flash 10 is indeed capable of saving files (with limitations though!) - I might dig into that.

[imothep85]

Sorry NeoMonkey, i dont want to make money, my boss pay me for that and if a client ask for something i can say yes or not, if its possible or no.
if your think im a ****ing noob its your right, i dont care, what people are thinking or laughing... i ask just for help and the only respons i have its...NO its not possible...so for products who are selled, i found that really stupid!!! if that dont work

WHERE IS THE BIG PAGE WITH THE "ABOUT THIS EXTENSION" where the functions and compatibilities are explained....i foud nothing you think i have the time to check EVERY message on the forums...whouaah men i have a lot of job to do and i do that very well.
I know nothing about you, and i dont want to know... i know just one thing...its not working... looki do a great job and the surface obj work with the swf extension but the thing is somes important functions are not working...and like save or others stuffs...
i dont want to lost my time with arrogant people, who treath me as a noob or others stuuf.

I LIKE that when you say... : So now what you should have done. First get swf exporter and see what it is capable of. After that you would get the client when you are 100% sure that it is possible to do!

OF COURSE, i buy BEFORE and after i check....if its working or not, and if its not working???? you think the developpers are going to reimburse my boss????
excuse me, ''LOL''!!

Im stuck with this problem for the eternity....no i have just to put the sofware with no save functions and no print... ok ...oh i forgot...WHOOOUUUUPS not transparencies too....
its allways the fault of the customer...alllwayys!!!

[Dynasoft]

You didn't need to buy the exporter to know it can't save, it says right here (which is linked from the front page of the clickteam.com website):
http://www.clickteam.com/epicenter/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=178830#Post1788 30

Limitations and differences with EXE apps

- SWF apps run in a sandbox, they have no access to the system, they cannot load or save file.
[...]

[Pixelthief]

Look, badmouthing people back and forth isn't going to help anyone. I agree that clickteam could use more information about all their products, but its common knowledge that Flash runs in a sandbox with a minimalist runtime, specifically designed not to be abusable.

As Yves said, Flash 10 does indeed bring a feature that allows file manipulation (only if requested by the user), and theres also LSO's that can be used like cookies- both things I think should be expanded on.

But in general, Flash is not able to modify peoples' files on their computers. This is not a property of the SWF exporter of clickteam- it is a property of Flash. if you're looking to make something that does that- Flash isn't what you need. Its much like trying to develop a 3d Engine in Flash or MMF for that matter- there is too much overhead and it will not work (not to mention no textures, HWA, etc).


That said, I still think theres lots of website revamps that would be excellent with MMF3- but this is not the way to ask for them, and it doesn't help to be irate. Either side.

[Looki]

Ugh, Pixelthief. I spent one minute trying to figure out your point, until I realized that you said "Look", not "Looki"....

[UrbanMonk]

Saving the image to the users computer just requires a php script that gets sent the color data, then passes an id back to the game.

Then the game opens the php script in the users browser passing the id.

The php script then generates the image and sends it to the users computer to download.


So when the user clicks save a download box will appear.

That seems like a feasible solution to me.

Just google around for a library that'll help with the php image generation.

[LB]

Creating images in PHP like that is easy enough without any libraries. If you pass the image data in a POST variable you can just generate the image from that, pixel by pixel. But, it'd be much simpler to just wait for StephenL to teach Looki how to use the flash 10 File Selector/Saver.

[Pixelthief]

Ugh, Pixelthief. I spent one minute trying to figure out your point, until I realized that you said "Look", not "Looki"....

*chortle*


But yes there are indeed file manipulations possible in flash, though they are very indirect.