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    I NEED HELP!! EMERGENCY!

    Hello! I am almost a "veteran" at Multimedia Fusion 2, with 4 years of experience. I know I may be a newbie compared to some users around here, but, anyways...

    ... Actually, I made a deal with a Chinese flash distributor, and, they said that in order of them to accept my game, I gotta put on some ADS that they sent to me.

    Here comes the problem:

    I don't have SWF File Exporter, my friend exported it for me, and I don't have any experience with flash. The ADS is in .jsfl format, and I don't know how to put it on my game. Is that possible?

    Also, is there a way to export a .FLA file from MMF2? They said that they could help me if I had it.

    And, also, is it possible to edit a .SWF file? if it's possible, i'll have no problems with that.

    Thanks a lot, guys!

    PS: Oh, if you want to see my game, take a look at here:
    http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/549325

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    Re: I NEED HELP!! EMERGENCY!

    If you're getting paid for this game, getting it sponsored or using ads, I'm not sure what the legal status on it is, but it is pretty unethical to use an exporter that you did not buy.

    You cannot export to .fla from MMF2. it is an SWF Exporter. With a ton of work you could get it implemented, or you could wait until build 250 with Jamie's AS Dynamics object, but ultimately, no, you cannot get those ads in your game at the moment.

    You cannot edit the .swf, it is in byte code. You cannot decompile it.

    You're pretty much screwed...

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    Re: I NEED HELP!! EMERGENCY!

    man, my friend did it to me, so I don't think it's unethical...

    Get on Morphy2K chat @Skype, his name is Ryan. :P

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    Re: I NEED HELP!! EMERGENCY!

    It's unethical because you and your friend are both profiting from a single copy of the flash exporter.

    If your friend pirates a game for you, is that fair on the game developer because he's your friend?

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    Re: I NEED HELP!! EMERGENCY!

    Now it's time to realize, you shouldn't do deals that you cannot fulfill.:'P

    You could however try to look at the source code of the ads with Macromedia Flash and see what it does, then implement the same features in Multimedia Fusion.

    You can also export the .fla to .swf in Flash and see what it does.

    See for yourself.

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    Re: I NEED HELP!! EMERGENCY!

    I can't comment on legality and ethical issues, or at least I can and I'm quite versed in them but I won't. But as eli said, MMF2 exports .swf files. SWF are like executable binaries; they are compiled code that runs in the adobe flash environment. They are your code post-compilation. An .FLA file is akin to an .MFA file; they are the source code.

    Source Code -> Compiler -> Compiled Code

    Compiled Code cannot effectively be reverse engineered into its source code. It is possible but extremely difficult, and compilers quite intentionally obfuscate code to make this harder. This is like trying to reconstruct a C++ file from its binary.


    An .FLA file is a project in Adobe Flash, where you can edit the code and everything available in the IDE, and make an .SWF from it. Even if you could reverse engineer an MMF-constructed .SWF file to an .FLA, the result would be utter gibberish because MMF uses a different architecture that would be unreadable in actionscript- just the idea of converting the MMF matrix coding into script.


    If you want to implement ads into an .SWF file in MMF2, you must either ad them through the MMF2 interface, or build them into the preloader and such. I believe Mochi is capable of both, and a competent ads maker could provide such external controls to run side by side your program at the very least.

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    Re: I NEED HELP!! EMERGENCY!

    Quote Originally Posted by augustoad
    man, my friend did it to me, so I don't think it's unethical...

    Get on Morphy2K chat @Skype, his name is Ryan. :P
    It is unethical. There may not be any way to legally define this, since it could be the same as a team of programmers where only one doesn't have the exporter, but it is exported and sold.
    You could say you and your friend are a team, but it's quite obvious that this is your project and he exported it for you, which is a poor way to get around the law. You are trying to make money of something you didn't even buy.

    Don't expect any condolences; if you were serious about making a deal, you'd have bought the exporter and learned how to use it yourself.

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    Re: I NEED HELP!! EMERGENCY!

    Quote Originally Posted by Eliyahu
    Don't expect any condolences; if you were serious about making a deal, you'd have bought the exporter and learned how to use it yourself.
    Yeah i agree it is unethical trying to sell something with a product if they don't own it, more so to then ask for support also.

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