Norton prevented stdrt.exe from install

[twister]

Jeff, maybe sign stdrt.exe containing part or all of the mmf purchased serial number (encrypted), thus it can be tracked back to the culprit who misuses mmf (in part). I'm only guessing, but I think people report stdrt.exe as a virus or as suspicious behavior because of misuse or poor programming.

Maybe include a fail safe which always enables the escape key for desktops with a popup, preventing complete lockouts from those pesky full screen apps with no menu.

The idea like Atom mentioned separation, and then also include additional prevention, and then virus free reputation follows.

Just some thoughts!

[Atom]

Well you can disable it by changing the Compress the runtime setting however i don't know how much difference it makes.

As i say though being able to customize the name would be good as it lets the user know it's part of the game/app rather than something else. There are also various other compression algorithms that could be used like UPX compression that don't run separately to the app.

[The_Geohound]

Renaming the stdrt.exe would be great.

[Jacob]

UPX compression that don't run separately to the app.

Yves said it creates ton of false positives and tehy removed it from Install Creator due to this reason.

[Atom]

Yves said it creates ton of false positives and tehy removed it from Install Creator due to this reason.

Yeah i just read, it is a good compression method though and also a very popular and well known one. He also says "original runtimes of Install Creator" though so not in MMF2 and also UPX is always being updated so it might have been a much older version that was used.

When i have used it before there has never been any problems though and i have also seen it built into other apps and never seen many issues reported. If the compression method remains the same though as i said before just the option to rename the extra exe would be great.

[Kimera]

Anti virus is a joke, you can only address viruses you know about and if 1% of the myspace, u-tube, and other social network users were 13 year old virus writers learning to write viruses how can anyone keep up with that. Because of that there is a ton of generalization done by anti-virus software and that is what jacks all developers, not just MMF developers.

Lets evaluate Anit-Virus. You install it to protect you from programs on your computer (viruses) that will take up hard drive space, as they run in the background they take up processor time, and they replicate themselves or send data over the Internet taking up your bandwidth.

What is Anti-Virus. A program that sits on your hard drive taking up your hard drive space, runs in the background taking your processor time and updates itself over the Internet taking up your bandwidth.

While no virus protection is not a good choice, you can not look at anyone but the virus companies for the false positives. I recently just lost 3 months worth of backed up data (external drive) because of a new network AV program. It thought one of my MMF object was a virus, but it was in a Zip/Rar file (several) and the AV trashed all the Zip/Rar files "fixing" the virus. Back to backing up on optical media, AV cant remove that.

Well my 2 cents anyway.

K

[fishnchips]

No matter how many times I try to restore kcmouse.mfx , Norton removes it automatically and classes it as a trojen.gen.

[twister]

Okay, my friend whose norton prevented running my app did have his norton set to auto updates (he had the most recent signatures). I gave him another version of my program without the "Compress the runtime" being checked.

My program installed and worked prefect, without any issues from norton, Yeah!

Does the added 300K at runtime make that much of a difference with todays computers?

[The_Geohound]

I don't think 330K is anything these days.

[Atom]

I don't think 330K is anything these days.

That was why i suggested UPX compression instead which can have 50%+ reduction of the original exe size and is also multi-platform, not a separate exe and a open source project.

I haven't done a load of comparison tests of anything but if in general it only gets about 330K reduction then there doesn't seem much point in stdrt.exe anyway. Also if it is now being detected as a virus a lot it might as well just be removed as there is not much point.